Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini

[spirantho]

Golly gee whiz, really, maybe like MorphOS, Aros, minimig, Amiga X1000, and Natami,  we can call all of them takers, or we can call them developers trying to give the Amiga a new start somewhere.

But that's just it - they're not trying to give anything a new start except Barry's bank account.  Painting a Linux backdrop blue isn't a new start to anything, it's a cash-in. I'd still like to see any evidence at all that C=USA have any intention whatsoever of doing anything with the names "Commodore" and "Amiga" except using it to hike up massive profit margins on bog standard PCs.
MOS, AROS, MiniMig, X1000 and NatAmi all give something to the community. C=USA just take. Completely different.

It really doesn't matter for the people at Amiga.org, they refuse to accept a new way of life anyway.

We don't refuse to accept a new way of life, but we prefer the old way of life, and if the old way of life is what we enjoy using, then why shouldn't we?
Most of us use modern machines too, and those who don't, don't need to.

To me computing should be both functional and enjoyable. Modern PCs are functional, not enjoyable, so I use an AOS machine whenever I can. And if it does the job as well as a modern PC, and I can enjoy using it, then that's what I'll do.

I use a PC with Linux, WindowsXP, Windows, Vista, and Windows 7.  One runs EUAE, the rest run Cloanto's Amiga Forever.

I believe in giving my old silicon a rest, and turn on the old girl when I want to show the younger generation what an Amgia did. It impresses a lot of them, especially when they learn that the machine is older than them.

smerf

That's fine for you, but the rest of us use our machines for something different than just showing what the "old girl" can do - we still use our machines.... and no amount of people shouting "but the world has changed! You're stuck in the past, man!" will change that.

[spirantho]

So getting the Amiga brand out there is mutually beneficial I reckon because its seen by so many people to be a 'performance and creative brand'.....it doesn't bastardize it....no not at all....

Getting the Amiga brand out there is not beneficial if the result is that the whole IT world laughs at it - and that's exactly what's happening and will happen as long as the C=USA people take the whole world for idiots.

To succeed in business you need a USP (Unique Selling Point). C=USA has a USP of its name, but it's just not enough to counter the extraordinarily high prices.

The Amiga name is being dragged through the mud and being thought of by the real world as some kind of court jester - and still people wonder why the real Amiga people - the people who've worked so hard, and taken such risks for so little money - don't like C=USA.

The swift reduction of $500 off the Amiga Mini is evidence of this - for them to be able to cut the price so much, that means the $500 must have been sheer profit. Not only that, but if they're now selling for $2000, that means they must STILL be making profit.

In other words, all C=USA are doing are trying to make a massive profit very quickly from people who don't know what they're buying, but it won't work.  They tried it at "ludicrous mark-up" and it didn't work, so they're now just trying it at "stupid mark-up".

[spirantho]

It's true, here's the proof:
http://www.commodore-amiga.org/en/forum/5-commodore-amiga-hardware-wishlist-/13855-just-ordered---#13871

They sold an Amiga Mini!

Fair play to them, though, it does take some kind of sales man to sell a bog-standard Core i3 system with a rubbish graphics card and no chance of expansion for $1500 or whatever it was....

[spirantho]

one more than I thought :roflmao:

That's the crazy thing about Barry's plan. He doesn't need many people to buy his machines (at a $1000 mark-up) before he gets his money back. The amazing is that people will actually buy a $500 machine for $1500 if you stick a few stickers on it and tell them it's an Amiga. Incredible.

[spirantho]

@Middleman

There have been many discussions about the Coldfire. The big problem is it's just not compatible enough, you need to recompile to make any real use of it....

Plus we're already well catered for with AOS and MOS using the much faster PPC chips, and with NatAmi making their own 68k core which should in time be faster in real usage than the Coldfire.