AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 News

[spirantho]

Just for a laugh I just timed my lowly Sam440ep 600MHz with u3.
It took 17 seconds from OS4.1 logo to loaded desktop, and that included a few seconds for DHCP look-up.
Just because some people installed software that did things it shouldn't does NOT mean the OS is "fundamentally flawed".
We know you like MOS, that's fine - I use it too sometimes - but repeating hearsay as truth isn't on. Sure there are people complaining but each time it was down to something that user had done, NOT the OS itself. If their apps had followed OS guidelines there would have been no issue, so you can't blame OS4.

[spirantho]

If you have an OS which works perfectly until you install a piece of software that doesn't obey guidelines, then yes, I'll blame the software and not the OS. If that makes me like ssolie then that's just fine.

So if I write an OS, and provide guidelines to developers, and then someone writes software that ignores those guidelines, and it breaks a future update - is that my fault or theirs?

[spirantho]

Hyperion have been helpful though - they created a forum specially, and they're keeping us informed about update 4. Most of the problems people experienced have been solved - I believe mostly it was down to rogue MUI libs in LIBS: - which should NEVER be the case. Plus just because IBrowse didn't break it before doesn't mean it never will, OS 4 has undergone so many changes under the hood it's not surprising some new problems arise.

I don't think anyone is saying OS4 is perfect, but many of the accusations leveled against in this thread just aren't true or fair on Hyperion, and it's that that I have a problem with.

[spirantho]

I don't think anyone knows, but I imagine you'd have to pay up again I'm afraid.

The best place to ask isn't here but on the Hyperion forums themselves, they'll know. It does make sense to offer a free upgrade if you buy after a particular date, I think.

[spirantho]

I think 4.2 isn't going to be so necessary as 4.1 was. I could be wrong (I'm not involved with Hyperion) but I think 4.2's main improvement will be SMP support, which of course is of no use to anyone other than X1000 owners.

Let's not forget though that charging for hotfixes is hardly new - all the OSes do it. Look at Windows for example. Win 95 didn't work on AMD K6-2 chips, so you had to fork out for '98. Then when you did, you found that '98 had completely broken USB, and you had to fork out again for Win 98 OSR2.

If you don't need the upgrade, then don't upgrade, I think is the message here.

For what it's worth I completely empathise. I have 4.0 on my Classic, 4.1 on my A1 and 4.1 on my Sam440ep - if I were to upgrade them all I'd be looking at close to £300, which is much more than I can afford!

I suggest using your OS until you find that you need the upgrade, then upgrade. Just because they're bringing out a new version doesn't mean you need to buy it (though I know the temptation is very strong!).

@jorkany

No-one said update 3 was perfect, but in no way was it as bad as it was being accused of.

[spirantho]

The first case, even Microsoft admit:
NOTE: This fix does not correct the problem for the retail version of Windows 95
If - like me - you had the retail version you had to buy Win 98.
And Win98SE was a paid-for upgrade, which you needed. I remember a lot of USB hardware saying "Windows 98 SE only" because it was basically borked (or to put it charitably - very basic) in the original 98.

In both cases you had to pay. I know, because I was a K6-2 owner with USB devices!