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Offline spirantho

Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« on: September 22, 2011, 04:26:07 PM »
Seriouslt: what is C=USA's USP? There'd have to be a really good one to tempt any businesses away from the established brands (Dell, HP etc). The Commodore name means nothing to businesses since the 1970's (ask any IT manager), so what's the plan?

A new company with no proven record has zero chance without a USP, and presumably C=USA realise this.... what is it? The only USP I can see so far is a ridiculous price tag...?
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Offline spirantho

Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2011, 08:21:51 PM »
The difference will be that the A1 won't be obsolete, the C=USA machines will be, because while we're still running our own software on our own OS, the C=USA machine will have to keep up with other Linux/Windows systems. In 5 years, the A1 will still be high-end to us Amiga users, and any x86 box will be considered ancient.
For proof of that you just need to look at the prices of OS4 hardware compared to the equivalent age x86 boxes.
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Offline spirantho

Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2011, 03:05:33 PM »
Quote from: Tripitaka;660837
Couldn't resist an OS4 troll comment even in a thread that has sod all to do with it.....


I just filter them out mentally... like you do when you have a record that's stuck and you can't change... just becomes background noise.

If an 'Amiga user' can't see that the rate of obsolesence on non-x86 platforms is much much lower than on x86-based consumer hardware, then I don't know quite what he's doing here because it's obviously not using Amigas.

On the plus side, fancy buying my K6-2/380 system? For the same price as an Amiga system of the same time, obviously, so will oh, £600 do?
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Offline spirantho

Re: You thought the X1000 was overpriced?
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2011, 07:47:50 PM »
Quote from: B00tDisk;660869
By your logic a boxed Apple Lisa or to go further back a mint Altair are far, far better computers than the Amiga.

(Hint: it has nothing - zero - to do with what the real world will pay for Amiga-one systems from the year 2000.  People from "outside" aren't flocking in and driving up the prices of A1 gear, it's all churn from about 1500 users and nothing more.  Hype and Amiga Inc set the price and Amigoids are struggling to recoup their losses investment, and they sell to other Amigoids.  Take a box of SAM boards to your local computer sale/show, and I promise you ain't gonna sell out of 'em.)


You can't deny though that my AmigaOne from 2005 or whatever is a million times more useful with current software for its OS than a PC from the same era.
I didn't say which was better, just that a PC will get obsolete a lot faster.
And of course if you go to a local computer show, you won't sell out fast.... but the world is a lot bigger than that. If you go to the open market like eBay, you WILL sell out at far higher prices than a PC would command.

However you cut it, you can't deny that the value of a 6 year old Amiga is worth more than a 6-year old PC - whatever the reason. Equally a $25K PC will be worth less in 5 years time than a $2K Amiga.
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