Whats the issue with the scan doublers? They scandouble all them modes to 31KHz so even games will display on a VGA monitor. With the ECS Denise and the commodore RGB to VGA adaptor all you are doing is enabling the crappy slow Productivity/Multiscan and double NTSC/PAL modes in 4 colors!! Games and the early startup will not work and will not display on the montor until WB loads. IMHO I would invest in a nice expensive scan doubler/flicker fixer and be done with it!