Amigas turn to play catch up - new intel cpu

[KThunder]

Vote with your wallets, dont buy into DRM'ed products. Don't torrent or pirate DRM'ed media either. Simply ignore the game, song, movie etc. Don't talk it up online, don't rave to your friends about how great it is.
Ignore it and let it die.
 
 
If you aren't refusing the machine, you are feeding it.

Voting with your wallet doesn't work, if even 5% refuses to buy a prodect because of drm there is still 10% that is busy cracking and copying it. who do you think they pay attention to. People who ignore the drm will talk it up, and if it is good it will sell.

What we need to do is what we did with Bioshock, complain the heck out of it till the publisher realizes they need to take legitimate customers needs into account. Piracy, drm circumvention etc. won't do that, it will only make things worse.

The music, games, and movie industries are slowly finding ways to make things better. I buy movies many times that have digital copy for example. Is it perfect, no, but it is getting better. Most companies are interested in legitimate customer complaints.

[KThunder]

No, I didn't think you were promoting piracy, that is what some people see as a solution though. The thing is I don't thnk drm is going anywhere. What we will see is a period where we and they air the problems and a solution that takes everyones right into account will eventally evolve.
significant missteps like sony's securom and the lawsuits surrounding it help us iron out the (many) wrinkles, and legitimate grievances we have.
most companies realize that we are were thier income is coming from and do react to consumer pressure just like bioshocks publishers did. Most of peoples complaints disapeared when 2k games tweaked thier drm because of customer input.

[KThunder]

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Aros doesn't run on 90% of the PC's I own, nor on my SAM 440, so it's as useless as a bag full of nipples to me regardless of what chips it runs on.  I've had nothing but misery out of Aros trying to run it on "modern" gear, and having to scour eBay for old video cards to run it, nah.  That being said, my recent experience with Morph was extremely pleasant, and OS 4 works great on the SAM.  I hope all AmigaOS variants continue to be developed for us grunts to fiddle around with, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for any of them to overtake Linux, OS X, or Windows....

I have tried Aros on a wide variety of hardware with video from Nvidia to Ati and several integrated chipsets from Nvidia, Ati, and Intel. Cpus from PIII and Celeron, to P4 and Athlon64. Soundcards from ancient to brand new, add-in or integrated. And I have found less than 10% that it wouldn't run on. What gear is giving you trouble?

Seriously not putting you down or anything, but give it another try, and check the forums for help if you need. Aros really is maturing quite well. I don't think anyone thinks Aros will be a mainstream player, but it could easily become a usable everyday OS, it's well on it's way right now.

[KThunder]

At the risk starting an argument, can some one please explain to me how a dead platform can "play catch up"?

Aros, MorphOS, Minimig, and OS4 are direct decendants of Amiga and are currently being developed. When we say "Amiga" is alive it is the same as saying that Windows is still alive. Is Windows 3.0 still alive, no but it's decendent is. Same with MacOs etc.

The Commodore Amiga is dead but it's clones are still very much alive, and being developed.
Aros could very easily use this technology.  

And yes you did want to start an argument.

[KThunder]

Main issues I've had with Aros compatibility are that I generally use PCI/PCIe SATA cards for my drives, which I've never had Aros work well with.  It's my personal preference to use cards for SATA vs. onboard, so I can't fault the Aros team for not adding support for what is likely .001% of the hardware make up of their audience.  I refuse to run old and slow, outdated IDE components  Gfx cards have been very problematic as well for me ('d prefer not to be stuck with 2d), as the oldest gfx card I own is a 295.

Yeah, support for non-mainstream components like sata cards, and the newest video cards will always lag. Kindof like Linux in that respect. I always have tons of hardware so it is weird for me to not think in terms of how many complete setups could I build for a particular purpose.

[KThunder]

There all going this way, everything embedded soon on single BGA package. Covered in gunk or extended over the pcb to prevent tampering, locked down with a bastion hypervisor, running a drm'ed processor/video and audio with eventually encrypted memory and tamperproof internal fuse-links.

They all want to be the next (Sky/Fox/NDS VideoGuard and milk the video cash cow.)

Where do you want to go today, that's 5 bucks, oh no the door bell rang, pause, thats 5 more bucks, oh you want to watch it upstairs thats 10 more bucks, oh you missed it, thats 5 more bucks, you want to watch it again, thats 5 more bucks, oh you like to keep a copy that's 40 bucks but we never actually send it you its on our server anytime you want until the end of calendar year. You can't resell what you never owned can you !. Oh just in case that's 40 bucks for a transfer licence.

What book was that called "Brave New World", not in our collection it must have been archived, have you taken your pill !

The free, must defend, those who are not.

Interesting little rant you have there. I have dishnetwork and for ony 5bucks I have dvr service. Pause, rewind, record, watch anywhere anytime, only 5 bucks a month. Not 5 bucks each time 5 dollars once a month.

Do any of you remember when the Pentium III came out with internal serial numbers, and we made Intel remove them. We consumers, normal people, made the mighty Intel bow to our wishes. All we have to do is speak up. Paranoia will get us nowhere. Responsible dialogue will get us what we want.

These companies have a right to protect their money flow. And they realize that we have rights too. We can get DVDs with free digital copy. Watch it on your laptop, or Ipod, or whatever, they don't care as long as you follow the rules and don't rip them off. You want a particular game or movie or whatever, buy it.

[KThunder]

Mr Kthunder of the good ole USA, thank your star spangled banner that you don't live in near a Murdochnopoly, I pay 150 dollars a month to watch some football and a few movies in HD with the ability to pause/record and rewind. Thank you very much for your DMCA 2000 that doesn't appear to affect your digital economy very much, but by god it affected everyone elses and mr murdoch wants even more....once a thieving bastard always a thieving bastard ! and we don't have much of a choice to stay legal!

Sky Sports 15 quid approx
Sky Movies 15 quid approx
Sky HD Basic pack 10 quid
Sky Basic Package 20 quid approx
Sky HD Options pack 2 quid
Sky Multi-Room (That's for an extra receiver) 10 quid
Sky HD Basic pack for the 2nd box 10 quid

And its so locked down NDS VideoGuard has never been cracked.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it

PS Yes I can afford it at the moment, but don't lecture us about the rights of the "company". (Oh yes Murdoch is now a naturalised american !)

ok Mr. Boudicca it's in my pipe and I'm smoking it, but it seems really really...normal.
150 a month thats normal I pay 95 a month but I don't have movies or sports. I can (and you presumably) get a basic package for 29 to 39 but I want the extras.

You seriously call this thievery?!?

Who the heck was lecturing? not me! Tell me what rights you think the companies that produce and distribute the entertaintainment we "can't" live without have. Do they have a right to make a profit? Each of the channels we watch costs money, it costs money to put satellites up to carry the data, etc. etc.

What I call thievery is the 95% of people who produce no art, no film, no anything constantly trying to find ways of getting this stuff (which is not necessary for life) for free.

there is your lecture Mr. Boudicca put that in your pipe and smoke it  

...or whatever

[KThunder]

ok Mrs.? Boudicca

I read, and reread your post and you don't seem to really be saying anything, until the end so other than the Mrs. thing i'll only address that.

this bit:
"Contradiction there, but if we can't live we out it, its can't be not necessary for life."

doesn't seem to be proper english so I don't know what to do with it.

and the rest just seems to be an attack on "murdoch" who I don't know and since I dont have or know sky either all I can say is that you seem to have a comparable package for a comparable price.

If you actually get into it you realize how much syndication costs, production costs etc. all are. This stuff costs huge amounts of money. Thats why we pay what we do. if we want to go back to standard def tv. and cardboard sets we could pay a bit less but I like stuff realistic, I like high def. and I like good acting and writing.

It all costs money. thats were we come in.

sitting around a campfire telling stories is free

[KThunder]

ha, yeah I won't make any defense for "reality" tv.

my favorite shows are sitcoms like big bang theory, and sci fi stuff ive head some of that does really well overseas. big bang theory especially.

I like to think of it all as "our tv" we have tons of shows with people from many different countries not just in acting roles but in support and staff as well.
Actors from the UK, Canada, Australia, and India, have been very succesful in particular. And many of "our shows" do as well if not better in other countries, like scrubs and a few others.

as for English or english, you'll find I am very inconsistant. I never used to use any capitalization or punctuation and quite obviously, I don't use spell check.

[KThunder]

@ KThuder

...If Murdoch has his way TV here will only get worse as he'll simply flood us with more cheap made American trash and even more adverts (it's almost as bad as American TV here now...)

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We seem to be doing something right, US made movies make hundreds of millions to billions a year out side the US. and dozens of US tv shows are redubbed in other languages to show in other countries. Most of our shows are anything but "cheap" we have some of the highest production values in the world, something that shows in the international intrest in our media.

Actors from around the world come here to find work. And many do very well.

Other countries are doing some fantastic work as well and many production houses even here in the States are multinational.

As for some of your other comments such as attention span etc. I'll mark down to meds? Not to be offensive of course, but at the same time I'll try to assume you weren't trying to be offensive either.

[KThunder]

I like the new Dr. Who on BBCA thats pretty good.

I hope the stupid reality and talent crap is just a fad that will go away soon, but I doubt it.

[KThunder]

Come on... lets not get distracted from the biggest news out of Intel since the MMX instruction set!

Dude, I think we were well off topic about 20 posts ago