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Offline AcillTopic starter

Clean Install WB Help
« on: December 19, 2015, 04:37:40 PM »
Okay here is one I have never seen dnd I cant figure out a solution.

My A4000T has a mess on the main boot partition from years of junk and installs on it. At this point I just want to start over clean. I have a 1GB partition on the drive I decided to put a clean install of Workbench on so I can move things over from my main partition.

I boot from my emergency disk and installed 3.9 to in with no problems. When I reboot and go to the early startup to select the new drive it starts to boot and I get a requester that no disk present in device DF0?? I try again and format that partition and do another clean install with the same result.

So I boot from the A4000T 3.1 floppy and do an install of a clean 3.1 and it does the same damn thing?! Anyone have a clue why the heck it would ask for a disk to be in the floppy after a new install? I am about to see if just pulling the HD and putting a new one in with no partition other than a clean one helps, but its strange.
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Re: Clean Install WB Help
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2015, 05:09:25 PM »
I do see workbench. library on the hard drive new partition. Its so strange it is looking for a didk in the floppy,  im at a loss.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2015, 05:23:43 PM by Acill »
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Re: Clean Install WB Help
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2015, 06:21:06 PM »
True 4000T, true scsi,  no drives on IDE,  I used the real 4000T workbench disks. yes its flagged bootable. Using a toastscan for video so no video card to cause issues yet. Its just crazyness. Yes I have a floppy installed as well.

Also running csppc Cpu and its fine when I boot from a floppy. I am at a loss.
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Re: Clean Install WB Help
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2015, 06:32:46 PM »
Quote from: kolla;800490
Boot without startup sequence, then...

set echo on
execute s:startup-sequence

and see what line causes it. I am thinking maybe it is addbuffers, but normally that one runs to NIL: - do you even have a df0: drive on your system?

Im starting to think its got something to do with the hard drive formatting now. I disabled every partition  in early startup except the new one,  selected boot without start up sequence and still get the "no disk present in device DFO"

Im thinking of trying a new drive on the csppc scsi port. Its faster anyway. Any other ideas?

Oh if I pull the drive and put a new one in,  will my emergency disk still boot 3.9 from cd to install clean?
« Last Edit: December 19, 2015, 06:45:20 PM by Acill »
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Re: Clean Install WB Help
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2015, 07:07:41 PM »
I'll pull the 040 and 060 libs off the cyberstorm CD and see what it does. I'm sick of dealing with it right now. Its been a lot of hours now.
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Re: Clean Install WB Help
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2015, 12:13:45 AM »
Quote from: Thomas;800501
I wonder why it is so that people seeking for help always ignore the only useful suggestion.

This is what you should do and tell us at which command it stops with the "no disk" message:



All other tips are valid but not related to the problem. The above is the only approach which can give a helpful information about the cause.


If you look at a couple posts back you will see that I tried to boot with no startup and it still did that. I ended up tearing it down and put a new drive in. Its connected directly to the CSPPC now and boots great. I forgot how much work it was going from a clean system.

I have my Mediator installed, PCI Info sees all the cards on it when typed. I think i will take a break for now. I need to figure out how to get software over to install now. It may take me burning stuff to a CD-R and moving it that way.
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Re: Clean Install WB Help
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2015, 12:58:41 AM »
Quote from: paul1981;800503
I wonder if you were installing over the top of your 'cluttered' boot partition by mistake instead of the new one. Anyway, moving on... Glad you're over the first hurdle, but personally I'd liked to have known what the problem was so that other future users can be informed if the same issue arises.

It sounded like a startup-sequence, boot priority or filesystem issue to me.


I am 100% sure I was not installing over my cluttered partition. I disabled it before doing an install every time. All I know that as soon as I pulled the old SCSI II drive out and put in a Ultra Wide on the CSPPC it installed and booted perfectly.

This mediator is a PITA!! I forgot how much work it takes to get it all up and working from doing it in the past on my A3000T. I'd had hoped it would of gotten easier by now, lol.
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Re: Clean Install WB Help
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2015, 09:39:43 PM »
I am having so much of a hard time getting my Mediator working that I put it on hold now. I'm stuck figuring out why AHI prefs wont run. I have AHI.device in devs, but when I click the prefs program it gives an error that it cant open AHI.device version 4 and I have 5.x installed, even replacing that prefs app gives the same error.

Setting up mediator I am at the point of installing P96, renaming the Cyber64 monitor to Voodoo and going into the prefs to setup a screen mode. When I do and select test it crashes my amiga and reboots.

Went in and installed BB1 and BB2 and decided to install Poseidon 4.5 just to get it ready. I can find the Trident pref icon to change the MUI stack size to 34000 but I get a nag screen that the Poseidon Popup (PoPo) is still to low, where the heck is the icon to change it??

Waiting for Elbox to send me the latest spider.device so its ready to go as well if I get my Voodoo 5 working. All other stupid PCI cards depend on that, and I hate burning a CD-R to move files over. I cant get my A4000T to read a CD-RW so its getting crazy as I find things I keep forgetting to move over.

Ordered a BigRam 256MB ZIII from Individual Computers after reading it will infact work with a mediator 4000T.

I also broke down and just ordered a Radeon 9200 256MB PCI from Elbox alone with a ZIII Riser so I can have my RAM in the top ZIII slot and a better Video card that has the 5v mode done to it out of the box.

If anyone can help with that POPO stack size issue and the AHI problem and recommend a list of must install items so I can stop wasting CD-R disk it would be awesome. Its been a long time since I setup a machine from scratch and its starting to burn me out with the number of hours I have in on this now.
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Re: Clean Install WB Help
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2015, 01:19:45 PM »
Getting further! I got my mediator working mostly now. Voodoo 5 is active and I am building screen modes. Ethernet working, but I need a new card. I forgot this was a slow card and not a fast. Sound is working, and USB is still needing some help. It has failures in poseidon. Waiting to hear from Elbox for the latest spider.device and I hope that will fix it.

As far as Poseidon goes, does anyone know where the Poseidon Popup app is stored? When my system boots up I get a warning that the MUI application Poseidon (PoPo) stack is to low and to continue anyway or exit. I changed the Trident app in Prefs, cant find the other though.
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Re: Clean Install WB Help
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2015, 05:01:25 PM »
Seems like using MUI 3.9 was the issue. I ended up keeping the DH1: install of 3.9 clean with CSPPC and libs, mediator working, still the MUI3.9 on it and a few minor updates.

I took DH0: and put on the full 3.9 version of ClassicWB and installed the last MUI3.8 update to it, mediator, PPC updates and libs, roadshow, Poseidon 4.5 and am currently investigating the ability to remove some of the stuff I don't need in it, but its working well.

Its a much better start at least than plain 3.9! I now am attempting to figure out why I cant get my Terratec PCI (FM801) card to output any sound. Its the only card in the Mediator not working. I also need some better screen modes in Picasso96. I have a nice 1024X768 and a 1440X900 currently. Others I try don't seem to show full on my 27" Samsung monitor. Voodoo 5 is a stange card and I am waiting for the Radeon 9200 I ordered from Elbox to arrive along with a riser.
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Re: Clean Install WB Help
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2015, 10:12:43 PM »
Using the latest avail P96 from the 3.9 CD. I know an Alpha version is available that's unofficial but am a bit scared to install it. Will it update my current install and leave my working screen modes alone?
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Re: Clean Install WB Help
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2016, 06:34:39 AM »
Check out that free FastRAM!! 402.8MB free!!!! BigRamPlus and Mediator 4000T is a success after busting my butt and countless hours of PCI card moving after looking at address space between every swap and a reboot!

Order that worked in case anyone would like to try it out is as follows:

From bottom of A4000T moving up.

1. FM801 Sound Card
2. Voodoo 5, 5500
3. Spider 2 USB
4. RTL 8139A Ethernet Card

Top ZIII in line with video slot had my BigRamPlus
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Re: Clean Install WB Help
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2016, 10:48:22 PM »
Yeah, it is REAL nice to have this much free RAM to play with. I just got done moving sys: into a RAD drive. Its so awesome now.
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