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Offline Acill

Re: Ease off bashing AmigaONE X1000?
« on: July 24, 2013, 08:37:55 PM »
I still stand firm on my feelings that this is a ridiculously priced machine for what you get out of it. You cant compare how MOS runs on the G5 to it at all, sure it only uses one core, but it does that on the G4 too and not because they cant get it working with both, but because they chose to maintain compatibility.

As for the 1GB of RAM, thats still a hell of a lot better over what your getting from the X1000 hardware being used on AOS. All the hardware that came with a G5 is used and working on MOS, if it shipped with the models that are supported, the hardware has a driver. This was all done with a bounty for less than a single X1000 machines cost.

The point goes back to the original gripe I had and getting back on topic, selling a machine for a premium price that doesnt even have full support of the hardware stinks of "give me your money" and isnt in the spirit of "Amiga" at all. This is what killed the damn Amiga in the first place!

They should be building a machine that is better priced, fully supported and easily purchased by the average user to sell more copies of OS4 thus increasing the number of users and making some money at the same time.
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Offline Acill

Re: Ease off bashing AmigaONE X1000?
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2013, 12:08:36 AM »
Quote from: Hans_;742079
That sounds great ... until you start trying to think of a way to make it happen and at least break even. Go on, try to come up with a realistic plan. Once you discover how expensive it is to develop and produce one of these boards, and how hard (and expensive) driver development is, I think that you'll give up. The length of time that it took to get onboard audio supported (both A1-X1000 and Sam460ex) should give you a hint as to how hard and time consuming driver developmennt is. Also, bear in mind that people won't be satisfied with Efika grade hardware even if it's affordable.

This may be slightly off-topic but, given the above, here's some of what I like about "Project Cyrus" (the future A1-X2000):
- Freescale have committed to long-term supply of the CPU, so any work done supporting it will last years
- There's an upgrade path to a high-end quad-core machine (via the P5040) without requiring reengineering of the board, or a single new driver to be written
- Choosing an already supprted sound-card instead of having an audio chip on-board lowers board costs, board design & testing costs, and eliminates the need to create yet another driver (or scrounge around for a supported chip that will remain available long-term)

Hans

Oh spare me the crap about how hard and expensive it is. I work at intel and see other engineers doing things here all the time for nearly nothing on hardware they just toss together to test ideas. As mentioned if the Raspberry-PI guys can build a machine as cheap as they do I dont want to hear how hard it is to get it done. I see it every single day I go to work.
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