Amiga 3000 or Amiga 4000

[Acill]

I would go witht he A300 too. I had one from the day they came out and
love it. With the int 2 mod you can use just about any accelerator
yes, but you dont HAVE to do the int 2 mod. Its only used for the scsi
controllers on them. I used my csppc for many years without doing it,
I just used the internal scsi is all. The mod takes less time to do
then it takes to take the system apart to get to the solder points
9only two places get connected) I used mine in a Mirage tower and had
amediator before getting the Pegasos and selling it off. If you are
just starting out though I would recomend an A1200 and then get a
Pegasos II or an A1 now. The new systems need support and the old ones
are just getting older. AGA isnt all that. When the 1200 came out I
got one as well and ended up selling it off about a year later. The
AGA titles that came out were never worth me getting an A4000. I
thought of it as a step down from the A3000 to tell you the truth.

[Acill]

What must have AGA softwar is out? AGA came to late and most of it is
crap. The A3000 is a better made machine. You can replace more on it
and its just solid. the A4000 wasmade with spare A3000 parts and was a
rush job. I have never had any issue with turbo cards in my A3000,
never!

[Acill]

Crumb wrote:
It depends on what you want to do and also on how upgraded the A3000 is. I owned one but I end up giving back the computer in less than a week because it sucked. You have to waste a lot of money to avoid problems:
-you have to buy the rom3.1
-you have to upgrade Ramsey and DMAC
-You can't put simms on the motherboard unless you use a hack
-You must upgrade to buster11 to get full zorro3 speed
-The scsi interface is slow and doesn't recognize all devices
-the case is small and won't allow you to use all accelerators (for example CSMK1) and if you can fit some accelerators you won't be able to completely populate them with ram.
-You can't put a CDRW inside the case because it doesn't have a 5 1/4 bay
-You have to make the INT2 modification to use Accelerators with proper scsi
-You have a low density disk drive
-You can't use cheap IDE drives

All crap! The scsi interface isnt that bad for what the Amiga can use. All accelerators that are worth a damn work just fine! The MK 1 was a POS monster, plenty of external drive cases are out, a pain I agree but they work well, INT2 mod takes 5 mins and I never bothered for years and used a CSPPC in mine with all RAM on it, 128MB worth, A4000 came with a 880kb drive as well, A300 and A4000 BOTH had the HD drive as an option, the RAMSEY and DMAC are fine, I NEVER botherd to change mine and NEVER had an issue at all. I know most poeple didnt have any. For the hell of it I put in the last Ramsey with my old DMAC to see what it would do. It works fine and they dont have to be upgraded in a pair like they say. Joel that was at Software Hut can also tell you this, the buster 11 needs to be done on MANY A4000 and MANY have it soldered to the board!!!!!  I used IDE in mine with a Budha controller. In the A4000 you need a SCSI card so its just the reverse problem isnt it? SIMMS? Who cares if you plan to use an accelerator? I took all my ZIPS out and had 128MB on my CSPPC. Its faster ram anyway.

The point is the A3000 is just as upgradable as the A4000 is and only lacks AGA. Most want an RTG card anyway. Put in a Mediator and a tower like I did and your have one kick ass system for no more then what an A4000 would be, and a lot of the times less. You can get an A3000 on ebay US for WAY less then a A4000.

[Acill]

KD7HTH wrote:
Great debate! Now can anyone direct me to where I can obtain 3.1 ROMS for my A3000???  :-?

If your in the US then go to www.softhut.com and give them a call. Dont order online. They have them all the time and at a fair price. I got mine from them years ago and just picked up another set for my spare A3000 I decided to take back out of storage.