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Could it beeee....12 Competiton Pro joysticks? :-D


Very very funny.


:)


That's not it.
 

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Re: Less than 12 Hours for a new Bounty to Toast all other bounty's
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2010, 04:51:14 PM »
Relax guys, the comic is not done yet. It's coming soon, you don't have to buy joysticks or anything.
 

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Quote from: KimmoK;579956
Video Toaster (12 letters).
?- port to x1000 with xcore replacing the VT HW
?- VT HW implementation in SW emulation
?- low cost VT HW reimplementation for xorro slot
?- bounty to finance VT5 porting
?- support for TCXD850 and/or XD300


btw. when is the end of the 12 hour timer? Two more weeks (tm)?
The standby youtube video is now 17 hours old?


Haha, two more weeks not this time. While you were not 100% correct you did get most of it right so the backer of the bounty will add $100 on your behalf. Yes, that's right if this bounty fails you will get $200 back December 2012.
 

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Re: Less than 12 Hours for a new Bounty to Toast all other bounty's
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2010, 07:49:54 PM »
Quote from: Kronos;580029
The toaster is (AFAIK) NTSC-only, noone in civilized countries ever used NTSC (/runs) and everybody else stopped useing it some time ago.

So unless I'm missing something relevant to today's high-def TV-standard I'd say it's rather pointless.

An FPGA based Amiga Video Toaster does not have to only be NTSC, it could support many resolutions including PAL & even HD.
 

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Re: Less than 12 Hours for a new Bounty to Toast all other bounty's
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2010, 10:16:27 PM »
Quote from: AmigaNG;580070
I have a question who is going to be in charge of the bounty, I belive it would luck better if it was ran by Amigabounty.net or power2people.org this time.

PS: what ever happened to the UAE for Mac bounty?

The main contributor is in charge. It's not even known if others will put any money in since it starts at such a impressive amount. If you don't like that don't donate, no one is asking you to. Unfortunately no one contributed to the UAE for Mac Bounty and it was closed.
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Re: Less than 12 Hours for a new Bounty to Toast all other bounty's
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2010, 10:47:02 PM »
@Plaz

Of course the TriCaster and VT[5] are awesome. They are amazing solutions for live streaming, editing, and video production for Windows. Open Video Toaster is about preserving and enhancing the rich heritage of the Amiga Video Toaster and hopefully updating it a little bit for modern times on Amiga OS 4.x, AROS & MorphOS. How is video editing done on these operating systems today? It's not

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Re: Less than 12 Hours for a new Bounty to Toast all other bounty's
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2010, 12:30:52 AM »
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I'm thinking it would be cool to concentrate efforts to get VT[5] drivers and apps ported to AOS4 instead. Pop a PCI VT card into a AOS4, MOS or AROS board and your are smokin'

Plaz


Yea, we thought about that one but no one was interested.
 

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Re: Less than 12 Hours for a new Bounty to Toast all other bounty's
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2010, 12:34:32 AM »
Quote from: Plaz;580091
Watch this video and you see one of the reasons we still talk about Amiga/Toaster 20 years later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyGCYoZ5Nlk

Plaz


This video is good too and shows off the AGA version of the Amiga Video Toaster 4000.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_K8vnx2ZDc


Plugs from Penn & Teller, Wil Weaton  & Tony Hawk help too.


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@Everyone

Some great suggestions, we will discuss with the generous donator. He is getting up there in years and is not a computer techie. He loves Amiga & the Video Toaster Flyer after all these years and that is a good thing. Nothing wrong with this bounty changing or evolving as long as the ultimate goal is met. Video editing suite for Amiga OS 4.x, MorphOS & AROS.

@warpdesign

It would be nice if Aladdin 4D was done, over 3000 hours of development have already gone into it. It's not a scam just hard work since it had been neglected for 10 years before it become our problem. In the future before we take over such a large project we will ask to look at major portions of the source-code instead of just a few small examples.
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Quote from: orb85750;580207
Toaster/flyer should not need TBC for stable digital source.  Genlock also irrelevant here, right?


Your right TBC's have not been needed for years. Even the Amiga Video Toaster 4000 does not need a TBC if you use digital sources like DV video camera, iPhone, DVD Etc. Not sure why some still think they need a TBC. I guess if your an ancient guy or girl that only has VHS tapes.
 

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Quote from: Andre.Siegel;580221
Well, you were told in person that the old Aladdin 4D source code was close to be worthless 7 months before DiscreetFX announced that the acquisition had been finalized. (I still think the trademark has value, though. Not because old Amiga users might recognize it, but simply because it is a good name for a graphics software package. There are not many good names left that are not already owned by other companies these days.)

It was completely obvious that the entire user interface would have to be rewritten from scratch and that the real-time 3D engine as well as the render engine would need be replaced entirely. So, with all due respect, I do not think anybody needed source code access to come to these conclusions, if that is what you were implying.

Perhaps we were over ambitious on that one, your right on all your points. We are happy to admit when we make a mistake and learn from them.
 

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Re: Less than 12 Hours for a new Bounty to Toast all other bounty's
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2010, 06:42:40 PM »
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The royal "we" is awesome.

Not sure what you mean? DiscreetFX is a small startup with only a few people.
 

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Quote from: warpdesign;580231
Well, it would be nice if you would stop announcing more unrealistic projects before having finished this one, don't you think ?


This bounty was not my idea and has nothing to do with Aladdin 4D.
 

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Re: Less than 12 Hours for a new Bounty to Toast all other bounty's
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2010, 04:30:59 PM »
Quote from: Crom00;580358
For those suggesting usb capture device... have you ever used one of these in a pro setting? Even today you have to shop around for one that doesn't drop frames, or suffer from lackluster quality as many of these devices are consumer level products not pro level products. There is a noticeable quality update when you move into pro products like the Tricaster or Toaster or Matrox products.

Believe me I know as I've tried many of them.

For those saying the Flyer is old analog tech... Umm it works digital once you capture the footage and you could output to component or yc or even save projects as a flyer clip digital file. Also the transition are totally digital.

I think a lot of folks are making comments and they've never really used the tech.
With lots of work this can be implemented into an FPGA and turned into an HD/SD product and yes USB provided it can match the quality and have built in TBC. At the time the toaster was made there was no TBC on a chip, they couldhavemade one but it would have added to cost (Tim Jennison told me so) nowdays that's much cheaper to do.


Thanx, your statements are all very true. The thing that hurts the Amiga Video Toaster & Flyer the most is people that have never used one just assume things and don't really know how great it was.
 

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@Pyromania

Where's the iPad version of Aladdin 4D? I can't seem to find it in the Apple Store...



Hopefully in 2011.