Why is this forum so Amiga unfriendly

[Tenacious]

Until last year, I logging in with dial-up on a similar spec machine and the same software as you.  There are a few tweaks you may be un-aware of. The problems you mentioned:

"..refresh after refresh..."

I'm not sure why you need to do this.  It reminds me of the sluggish behavior I experience if I leave Javascript Support ENABLED.  This slows browsing by a factor of 4 even with a high-speed connection.  Java script isn't required here.

"..dumped out for no reason.."

This has been known for some time.  It seems to come from not logging off every time.  I still get stung by this, but only rarely now.  Two proceedures help help greatly: 1. Actively log off every time you log in.  2. Just before hitting the Submit key, select something on the page and choose "View link in new window".  If that window shows that you are still logged on (at the top), switch back to the posting window and Submit.  If not, log back in and then submit.  Beats loosing your post.

I have to agree with most here, Amiga.org is great.  Thanks to all who make it possible!

[Tenacious]

@ Wayne

"..actual Amiga-based browsers make up less than 10% of our users, most of those using emulators.."

WOW! I always thought the percentages were higher than that.  Can you disclose the actual number of us  (disillusioned fools, grin) still logging on with real Amigas?  How many with emulators?  Just curious.

My 2 cents worth: This site is dedicated to and about Amiga, it should always be usable by real Amigas, even if our numbers have fallen somewhat.  Those with "modern" computers and OSes can go anywhere on the net without hindrance.  It's telling that the other 90% of user's choose to come here, says a lot about the quality of this site and the community here.

It also helps to illuminate the seemingly majority opinion that Amigas are for hobby and gaming, not everyday use.

Good luck with the new job.

[Tenacious]

We can agree to disagree, I guess.  Since you quoted me, I felt compelled to respond.

Our points of view seem seperated by a canyon. Some points:

1  I still happily and productively use my Amiga for nearly everything, including surfing the web.  While I appreciate Amiga.org as an Amiga friendly site, it does not form the borders of my online horizon.  I surf everywhere with Amiga.  In fact, I bravely use Amiga on sites where I would fear to tread with Windows for fear of infection. (Grin!)  The only sites I avoid are those that are prideful of cutting edge standards and video codecs (U-toob, Google Earth, etc).

2  I don't see technical difficulty leaving this site as is.  I certainly don't want to marginalize the hard work that goes into all web sites, especially one as comprehensive as this one.  (Thanks again guys.)  My fear is Wayne and company may someday grow tired of old HTML and hanker after the latest & greatest web technology.  That's human desire, not a technical roadblock.  The technical sophistication, content, accessability, moderation, and style of Amiga.org is very nicely matched to our purpose.  (Again, thank you!)

3  My Amiga is not "retro", it is the way I want to compute.  Period.  I do enjoy (and collect) some retro technology more than most people, but Amiga is not nostalgic for me.  You make the comparison to a C128.  I can't see it.  The Amiga OS (and hardware, too) is vastly more powerful, capable, and sophisticated.  I admittedly have little experience with Commodore 64/128, but the only commonallity I see between the two is the manufacture's logo.  In short, I'm not willing to hang up my guns yet.  I don't think I'm the only one.



Reading back over what I just wrote, it even sounds hard line to me.  I think I'm responding to a tide I feel here from other users.  It seems many members (the majority?) want to speed my world into history.  We've all seen negative and sarcastic posts advising newbies to limit their exploration to gaming and hobbying. Others have actually jeered the notion of still seriously using an Amiga as the main computer.  Though I don't understand pure gamers and collectors, I'm glad everyone is here.