@ikir:
Most of the users bought thier system knowing that something could be not 100% working.
That's how everyone buys anything, regardless of whether it's a vacuum cleaner, a car or a motherboard!
But that's why there usually are warranties to repair, exchange or refund in case of faults. Either that, or clear disclaimers that the product is or can be expected to be flawed and it's explicitly sold without a warranty (and then it's usually much cheaper too). This is legislated in any western civilisation at least, but most honest dealers don't need to be threatened with legal action to honour this. It's simply good business in the long run.
The problem here is that this product has been advertised and sold as normally functioning, without any added disclaimers, with warranty. On top of that it's said to be an even BETTER product with MORE consumer protection because it's sold using a trademark licence that has been "officially" alleged to depend on certifications and extensive testing. Actual events have proven over and over again that all this has been absolute
spucatum tauri. You're not more "protected" now than if you
printed your own sticker. In fact, you could be less protected, since you could put that sticker on a piece of hardware sold by someone who acknowledges his responsibilities.
Read the thread on AW.net Eyetech itslef discouraged soe users to buy an A1 system.
Do please note that he (I only see one such user) says nothing about having been told about suspected faults with the hardware, lack of warranties or anything like that. Bobsonsirjohnny was apparently advised to buy a cheap PC instead of an "AmigaOne" (which didn't even have AmigaOS4.0-DPR at the time), since the latter would not be a suitable computer to "get him through uni". He also says he doesn't want to apologise for anyone, and thinks there's been too much misinformation.
Since "read AW.net" seems to be the standard course of discussion here, I suggest you try not to ignore what Teron-owners like e.g. RedMelons, Oxygenet, Radfoo, Coder or takemehomegrandma have to say about the information they have (not) received prior to purchase, and what they think about the situation.
As always i want to say that A1 is working great for me, usb is not a grea problem because in you reset the machine in about 8 seconds. for ide, i'm using a Sil card.
Good for you, and anybody else who's happy. Others might be likely to think that an $800 motherboard with e.g. the dysfunctional on-board IDE and USB you mention is not "working great". Those might even expect minimum legislated warranties (or "responsibilities for faults", or whatever it could be called wherever you all live) to be honoured. Then there's that expensive EXTRA consumer protection... Since Terons so far have been 60% more expensive when they're sold using an "Amiga" label, one might expect international limousine shipping for replacement of motherboards that have a slightly tinted colour, or something.
Ben Fudding? I've read comments about no Dma at all on A1 and much worse.
I have no idea what those comments that you've seen would have to do with Ben's embarrassing deflection in the form of pseudo-libel in the last paragraph of Framiga's quote, which is what I think Kronos is referring to. It seems like you're trying to deflect deflection!
Fortunately (in this case) Ben Hermans no longer (?) represents Hyperion, despite the user description on AW.net and him referring to Hyperion as "we". IIRC, he's only providing legal advice to Hyperion these days.
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