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Re: Alan Redhouse Interviewed
« on: November 23, 2003, 07:15:58 PM »
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I dont think I've ever read a positive post from Joannak about anything.


I think she just never read the "post at least 10% positive content" clause in the amiga.org member guidelines.

Maybe we should ban her?

:-P

What's worse? Her not being "positive", or her being realistic and accurate?

This reminds me of something that annoyingly often can be heard from one of the more infamous characters in the so-called community: "You're not being constructive." Which has a twisted meaning: "you don't agree, you're not being 'positive', you're pointing out flaws that should be hidden, please stop thinking, just read the damn marketing and post some animated smileys and shout 'GREAT' will ya!"

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Anyway, I don't see what's so "GREAT!!!11!!!" about this Q&A? Many questions seem like they instead should be addressed to an engineering / product development firm like Mai. Most answers were the usual marketing, thinly veiled digs at what for some odd reason is considered "competition", contradictory statements, ambiguity by the truckload, confusion between reseller (Eyetech) tasks/capabilities and designer (Mai) ditto, hubris, and... ummm... imaginative technological reasoning.

IOW, same old, same old.

This passage was rather revealing though:
"In the interests of the existing Amiga community we absolutely have to broaden the market for the A1 technology [my emphasis] and for OS4, even if that involves using Linux as a trojan horse. [...] that responsibility is, for the moment at least, mainly falling on Eyetech's shoulders."

Yup, that's the sorry state AmigaOS has been put in. It's intentionally been made dependent on how well one dealer can sell a particular motherboard. Of course, this was probably meant to be interpreted as a Good Thing here. It's "in the interest of the Amiga community" that we should buy our hardware via Eyetech. :P
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Re: Alan Redhouse Interviewed
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2003, 05:44:51 PM »
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uh.. what are you, drunk? How can you possible take his comments regarding HOPING that they make inroads to china as "China adores me."


I thought the complaints at JoannaK was because she wasn't "positive" at all, not that she expressed her lack of "positivity" with a quite bleeding OBVIOUS helping of irony.

Regarding that specific China bit, wouldn't the Chinese customers have to "adore" Eyetech, if they would prefer to order their PPC mobos via a foreign distributor rather than simply ordering/building them themselves? Eyetech doesn't design hardware, nor do they own any hardware designs to sell/license to others. Since Eyetech cannot and does not add any value (rather the reverse) to the hardware they're selling, any big Chinese customers would either A: be stupid, or B: "adore" Eyetech (to re-use JK's terminology).

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   "In the interests of the existing Amiga community we absolutely have to broaden the market for the A1 technology [my emphasis] and for OS4, even if that involves using Linux as a trojan horse. [...] that responsibility is, for the moment at least, mainly falling on Eyetech's shoulders."

    Yup, that's the sorry state AmigaOS has been put in. It's intentionally been made dependent on how well one dealer can sell a particular motherboard. Of course, this was probably meant to be interpreted as a Good Thing here. It's "in the interest of the Amiga community" that we should buy our hardware via Eyetech. :P



Who else is making PoP boards besides Genesi and Eyetech/Mai? Jesus Krispy Kreme Christ, look out the goddamn window! Amiga is going to *have* to piggyback on top of technology like this to get affordable hardware. Do you think Genesi could make it on just their PPC boards alone? Of course not. Their rolling their IP into stuff like STB's where they can actually MAKE SOME MONEY. Eyetech/Amiga must do the same.

To paraphrase our esteemed colleage bhoggett: "please try to use your head. It's so very important."

I'm not in *either* camp. Not Red, nor Blue. The Red guys can be over-enthusiastic at times, but you Blue-campers come up with the most ridiculous excuses for reasoning sometimes. Get a clue.



WOW.

Yeah, maybe I should stick to those "Scandinavian language boards" if someone can misunderstand me on such mindboggling levels in an English forum...

ISTR that I've explained my views on all this before, e.g. here.

Yes, of course AmigaOS will have to piggyback on (i.e. RUN ON and be SOLD FOR) third party hardware since there WILL BE NO MORE AMIGAS. Duh. For an example of third party hardware, you might have heard of the Teron/"AmigaOne" motherboards...

And this could of course be Very Good!

What sucks is that this new advantage for AmigaOS (the riddance of Amiga hardware) is removed.  There's a make-believe game that AmigaOS users for some odd reason should only be allowed to buy our third party hardware from certain "Amiga dealers", and only after it's been renamed to "AmigaSomething-or-Other", after it's been dongled, and after it's been bundled with AmigaOS.

Whatever the heck hardware designers and vendors like Genesi, Apple, Mai, Eyetech, Whatever Ltd. have to do to make a profit (STBs, trips to China, whatever) should not have to be of our concern. If one dealer fails, tough sh!t for them, we don't care, we should be free to turn to another dealer regardless of the existence or not of an absolutely useless trademark/distributor license.

"Eyetech/Amiga"? There's the problem! It ought to simply be "AmigaOS, and whatever hardware it runs on." We shouldn't have to give a damn about who resells the hardware, whether they sell it bundled with something, or what they choose to call their hardware. We shouldn't have to "support" any particular vendor just because they chose to resell a piece of hardware using an "Amiga" name. Personally, I prefer to support (with my purchase) the dealer that can offer me the best and cheapest hardware. Others might want to support e.g. a licensed dealer who offers bundled systems. It should be our choice to make.

"Other POP boards"? I would hope that the future of AmigaOS isn't exclusively planned around what POP motherboards are available today (or only whatever Eyetech can offer), but I'm afraid that's not how things are. Remember, the compulsory licensing is to govern hardware availability for us for "all future versions of AmigaOS", according to AInc. Ergo: AmigaOS has been thoroughly fµcked.

If you still don't understand what I mean, I suggest asking Bill Hoggett whom you referred to. I don't know if he agrees with me, but I know he at least understands what I'm trying to say.

"Blue-campers"?
The campist world never ceases to amaze me.
Let's give AmigaOS at least a frigging chance to revival and actual userbase growth, because, uh, I'm a Blue Troll!
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