Where could I get a microA1 ?

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ikir wrote:
@ Noster

If you don't find a Micro, save for a Ack or Troika, there will be also high end models later.

Thanks to Eyetech we have OS4,

Partly thanks to Eyetech, we DON'T have OS4 for sale.
Thanks to Eyetech, OS4 stands without any hardware to run on at all, much less any viable hardware.

Or should we say thanks to AInc, as it was them who allowed the totally irrelevant Eyetech to have any say at all on the OS4+ distribution model, on the prerequisites for the development of OS4, and on who's supposed to be allowed to get a licence to compete with Eyetech.

thanks to Eyetech i'm posting this from a A1XE 1Ghz and it is my favorite computer ever

THANK YOU, EYETECH!

I agree, he did some big errors,

Thank you, Eyetech!

but after all we have something thanks to him...

Yeah, all PPC hardware, including Terons, would have ceased to exist if it weren't for Eyetech.
I hope you're all really grateful towards Eyetech now, aren't you, Mr Jobs, Mr Buck, Mr Carda, Mr Staats, Mr Hou, Mr Mueller, ...?

"We" have always "had" something. We still "have" something. We're just not allowed to buy it to use with AmigaOS, thanks to Eyetech.

and dma is fixable (for free in some country) and works ok, sound onboard works fine.... and go on.

So some things have been worked around mostly by software developers or by the board designers with more or less acceptable results, some issues remain unaddressed, some dealers haven taken it upon themselves to do "for free in some country" what should be Eyetech's job, and you think this is somehow supposed to make people grateful towards Eyetech?

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Colin_Camper wrote:
@Savan

What was said was FACT. redhouse sold "known" faulty boards and when he found that out he decided not to honor the boards warranty. He is a dishonst and a dirty buisness man.

If you met Alan, you would find him a really genuine, decent guy.

I don't know about Alan as a person, but the whole "AmigaOne" venture has been dishonest from its unnecessary birth to its miserable end.

Well the SE was a mess. But to be fair it was sold as a Beta development system AND these owners were very much encouraged to upgrade to XE (at some cost to Eyetech if I remember.

No. Only a small number of the earliest "SE"s were ever sold as "developer boards", and that was in reference to software development, not hardware quality or warranties.

The upgrade cost was to the customers, not Eyetech. Of course people were encouraged to upgrade! Personally I'm not upset at all over that buying an upgrade obviously will cost you money, but the "SE"s were broken and the "XE"s were supposed to be functional replacements for these. Either the boards should have been fixed for free, or replaced for free* if a fix wasn't possible.

*= IIRC, the "upgrade" deal was just a small reduction on the ordinary price of an "XE". If not totally free of charge, one could at least expect to have a faulty and unavailable product replaced with a newer available model if one only has to pay the price difference between the two models.

The XE's have had issues that are all surmountable - most XE owners are happy with them. I only hear people complain and {bleep} about A1 and Eyetech when they don't own one and have no intention.

Are you saying you haven't heard the complaints from the actual owners, then? Royally pi$$ed-off people don't count?

And why would the opinion of people who aren't customers not count? We want to buy AmigaOS, and so Eyetech are/were the only ones who we are/were allowed to buy hardware from. And what about those who MIGHT want to buy AmigaOS, but see all this? IMO, the solution is not to ignore or shut up about the problem in order to "con" more people, the solution is to solve the underlying problem (in whatever way; I think I've already said how I'd like to see it done).

Are you seriously suggesting that Eyetech or any company in this tiny, fragmented market can offer the same after sales support that IBM, Apple or HP do?

Actually, they're supposed to offer BETTER support than eg. Apple. That's one of the stated reasons to why we should have a tiny, fragmented market in the first place, and why we're only supposed to be allowed to buy hardware from Eyetech, and pay extra for it.

Apple haven't bought a licence to sell OS4 with their hardware, which according to AInc's/Eyetech's own words makes Apple's (and anybody else's) hardware potentially "substandard" and the vendors unable to provide "guarantees on product quality, delivery, and most important of all post sales support, with firm commitments to repair, replacement and turnaround".

So yeah, considering the officially alleged reasons for inventing the whole compulsory licensing scheme, considering this is what people are supposedly paying extra for, and considering that Eyetech only have like a tiny fraction of a percent of the number of customers to support that Apple have, one would at least expect the legislated minimum warranty to be honoured.

I also heard in another thread that the ACK PowerVixxens are  soon (next month at latest) to be shipped to dealers and that the product range will include CPU modules for A1's at reasonable prices.

Being cheaper than an "AmigaOne" isn't the same as having a reasonable price. It's difficult to be more expensive. And both those options, assuming they will materialise, are even worse "general desktop computing" hardware options and less competitive than the Terons/"AmigaOnes" were in 2002, which I think is quite a feat!