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Re: ROTFL....
« on: May 20, 2008, 03:16:01 PM »
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niklasni1 wrote:
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Am I seeing things or did his feedback score actually drop 10 points since yesterday?

"eBay has changed its feedback policies as of today. Sellers can no longer leave negative or neutral feedback for buyers. So sellers can't do "feedback blackmail" on buyers. But of course buyers can now do massive feedback blackmail on sellers.


I'm hoping it motivates sellers to treat buyers the way
sellers like being treated. I get tired of winning an auction or doing a Buy It Now, and then having to ask the seller whats going to happen next. There are some pretty decent sellers on eBay but you have to buy something to figure out who they are. Maybe this will motivate the
sellers that abuse the feedback system to stop taking
buyers for granted. I just don't think it's right to take
a persons money, then make them wait 3,4,5 days or more
to send them what they paid for.
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Re: ROTFL....
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2008, 01:18:17 AM »
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swoslover wrote:
My fear now as someone who sells and works is the attitude of people like BF.  These people seem to forget that there are very few (as a percentage) professional sellers on Ebay.  


If you mean BR, I should've been more specific. I understand
and remember that people work and don't have a problem
waiting for a purchase if the seller mentions there will be
a delay in sending it. I do have a problem with paying
and then having to ask about a purchase. If a seller can justify requesting immediate payment, and a buyer pays
immediately, the seller should contact the buyer with details to finalize the deal as soon as he/she can. Not saying anything for 3,4,5 days or more, then responding to an inquiry with "I'll ship it when I can" isn't fair to
the buyer or the sellers that don't do this.
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Re: ROTFL....
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2008, 03:40:16 AM »
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amigadave wrote:
> The buyer has only one responsibility and that is to PAY >and to do it within a reasonable amount of time.  If that >is done, the seller should have no recourse against the >buyer and should do everything they have agreed to do in >provide the product promised in their auction AGAIN in a >reasonable amount of time.

Well said.

>I can't tell you how many times I have done my part and >paid for an item, only to have the seller wait for my >feedback before they will leave theirs, so they are holding >me hostage and I cannot leave ACCURATE feedback due to fear >of them ruining my feedback score due to my truthful >feedback about them.  

A few didn't wait for me to leave feedback, but the rest
have and I agree with you. You've done your part and if
the seller does his there's no reason to make you go
first and this influences the feedback you leave.

>I made the mistake of leaving NEUTRAL feedback against one >seller who had a misleading auction description and he >reamed me with a negative retaliation feedback the next day >(Colesmedia, if you are reading, you are an A$$H0LE).

I asked eBay about removing retaliatory feedback and they
said your only recourse is to post a response to the bad
feedback, they wont remove it. Did you use this option
when this guy did this to you?

>Now feedback works the way it should have always been.  >Sellers have many other ways to deal with deadbeat bidders.

I don't see the difference between this "advantage" and
going shopping at a retail store. There's a minimum level
of respect or you walk out, don't spend your money it that
store. On Ebay a seller profits from the transaction long before you receive your purchase even if it's shipped
right away on something your buying sight unseen because
photo's don't always show what you want/need to see.
How many of us would shop at Wal Mart if they stopped you
at the front door, took your money then picked out the item
for you? I agree with you, the newer system give's the
buyer something he has almost every place else he shops.

>I usually just refuse to leave any feedback for those kind >of sellers recently, but now I am free to be truthful >without fear of the retaliation.  Thank you eBay.

I was told you have to leave some kind of feedback and
you had 90 days, and now its 60. And the feedback still
wont reflect the number of transaction when both party's
feedback is disallowed by eBay. I didn't know you
could refuse.
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Re: ROTFL....
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2008, 01:17:56 PM »
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amigadave wrote:
Who told you that feedback was mandatory?  Oh wait.... I remember.  It was Doomy!  He claimed that they would close his account for not leaving feedback and that is why he had to create over, what was it, 5, 6 accounts or more in less than 10 years.  :lol:

This was in an email response from eBay. I let the 90 days go by once and on day 91 I was able to log on, but unable to do anything else until I left feedback. I assumed it worked this way for everyone. 6 accounts in 10 years?!? I think
I'd give up on eBay and put a sign in my front yard. >:)

Then myself and several others told him that he was full of it as we had never been threatened with any kind of adverse action when we had not left feedback for some of our auction wins.  I guess you didn't catch that part of our replies to him in these forums.  He was not allowed here very long, and for very good reasons.

No, I missed this. Must've been during one of those "to busy
with other stuff to spend much time on the computer" periods.

  He is (in need of singing lessons?) insert your own personal attack here that fits your experience with him...............I can't as it is against forum rules to attack anyone personally.  I will say that I laugh every time I think of him, but then I was lucky not to have lost any money to him, like so many others might have.


I like receiving the benefit of the doubt so I try to
share it, but I do remember someone posting about a motherboard they'd received that had been intentionally
damaged prior to shipping. It's hard to share the benefit of the doubt with someone that could take your money, pack and
ship something in that condition even if they didn't damage
it deliberately. If you cant be mad at someone and still
give them there moneys worth/what they paid for, you
shouldn't be in business. Otherwise warantee's would read:
"I reserve the right to withhold support if you upset me". >:)
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Re: ROTFL....
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2008, 01:23:12 PM »
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[color=ff0000]Why do you continue to spread lies and rumors about me?  If you think back to when I was on Amiga Org for a while, I came clean and forced everything out into the open.  NO ONE had any evidence against me or could prove that I did anything wrong.  But I have receipts from the US Post Office proving that I did ship everyone there items that they paid for.  When I started gaining popularity again on Amiga Org, one of the jealous moderators kicked me off for no reason.  Get your facts straight asshole and stop talking {bleep} about me when you do not know what the {bleep} you are talking about!  You sound like a punk when you talk {bleep} about someone who's not there to defend themselves."[/color]


How does someone gain popularity, and which moderators
are the jealous ones? I may need to know these things
because I may decide to be influencial here someday. >:)
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