PC still playing Amiga catchup

[TheMagicM]

I'll give you THREE:

1. Boot up time
2. Shut down time
3. Application launch time  (and don't give me the spiel about how much bigger modern apps are because they do so much more so ofcourse they' take longer to load, thats all negated by the fact that you're running those apps on hardware specs that are many many factors faster clock speed and higher capacity ram and bussess, than the hardware used to launch Amiga apps.)

Last I heard, MS-DOS whips AmigaOS in boot time, shutdown time, application launch time.

[TheMagicM]

I think you'll find that MS-DOS only equals AmigaOS in shut down time i.e., instant. While I do think anyone saying their classic machine beats any modern PC at anything other than reading Amiga floppies is nuts, I will say that the "average" PC experience of myself and everyone I have contact with in the real world is one of waiting - waiting for the list of apps to appear in the Start menu, waiting for a window to minimise so they can access the window open behind it. This is an everyday thing that everyone I work with just accepts, but does my head in because I know it doesn't have to be like that. True, they're not cutting edge machines, but they're all only running XP OTOH which is now 7-ish years old. This is most definitely a Windows thing rather than a hardware thing, and maybe with some better programming of the Windows task and memory handling it could be much better. But as it stands, the average Windows machine that people use every day can't hold a candle to a top-end machine running Linux, or even AmigaOS4 in terms of responsiveness. Responsiveness is really where it ends with AmigaOS though; a well configured, high powered PC can do it, but the average machines that most office workers in the world have to use simply can't, and that is actually the average experience.

My god man...you must be running XP on a 486.  Every machine I've had from my AMD 2200+ CPU based system to my Quad core system runnning XP to Vista, I've never had any issues like that ever.    

My "everyday office computer" at work is very responsive also.  Its a Dell core2duo laptop w/a 17" display, 4 gigs ram running XP.

The people I've run into that have slow systems are the same people who do not maintain it.  You throw garbage into Windows you'll get garbage out.  You take care of Windows, it'll take care of you.  Its not the most reliable OS but it works.

[TheMagicM]

that my friend is the elephant in the room that you can't see:  you are running a 7 year old OS on hardware specs that are more or less 12 months old.  try running XP on a p3 600 with 256 meg ram, hey that was the average PC when XP came out.  And run Word 2003, a web browser an email client and see how much you enjoy it.  you might not even be able to open the start menu for all the hard drive groaning you'll get..

p3 600? LOL.  get with the times.  Yea its great going on a long trip in a 1974 VW Beetle but its not as fun and comfortable as my wife's 2008 Chevy Tahoe.

your system runs ok because you are using the "if its slow, then throw more hardware at it' philosphy.

Actually, that never crossed my mind.  Systems nowadays, if you build your own, are VERY affordable.  If you're using a p3 600, then its your own fault, go wallow in your own sorrow.  I have no sympathy for you.

Its not my fault XP is 7 years old.  I upgrade my systems to keep up with the times.  I'm glad XP runs well on my systems at work.   At home, I'm ballin' with a HP laptop runnin openSuSE 11.

Too many people bash XP when its their dinosaur hardware causing the bottleneck.

[TheMagicM]

Hi,

@Stef

How can he see the elephant in the room when he has his head stuck up the elephants a**?

smerf

Its pregant, so I'm helping extract you.  You're somewhere up in there.  LOL!!!

Ok someone ELSE who "just doesn't get it".

I don't use a P3 anymore, silly.  I know that to get a current  MS OS running as opposed to walking you need hardware 5 years ahead of the OS. BUT THE P3 WAS HARDWARE THAT WAS COMMONLY AROUND WHEN XP WAS RELEASED.  THATS WHAT XP WAS MADE TO RUN ON.  Its the hardware advancement 7 years later not the OS that improves the user experience.  You just basically poved you still can't see the elephant in the room..

Call it what you want.  All I know is my system(s) run great.   Enjoy your Windows XPerience!

[TheMagicM]

OMG.. this thread is STILL going on ?  lol