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Sad really can`t agree with him. My G-3/600MHZ Pegasos2 running Mplayer on MorphOS, plays Divx video, that my Athlon 1GHZ WinXP locks up and can`t handle.  Cheaper is not always better.  Apple makes the switch to jump on the money train.      Eating their own words that the PPC is better.  Sony doesn`t seem to want to switch.  They seem to produce tons of PPC machines that sell less than $150.  One word "CELL"  
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2006, 04:59:44 PM »
@CHR_ZD
Divx made with Vidomi is more the problem.  My point being that a person doesn`t have to a big blouted OS and a ton of ram to have a good system.  Windows 2020 will probally take up  
9 GB to install.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2006, 05:01:44 PM »
Off topic the big book of amiga hardware is back online hooray!!
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2006, 05:17:01 PM »
@ThEcRow
Yes well it is one of my old machines.  I started making DivX movies in 2000, with Vidomi.  They are very compressed.  The machine I`m setting on right now is An Athlon XP2600+, 512MB Ram, Radeon 9200, doesn`t have these problems.  Please guys start ragging my hardware I`m just a poor Department of Defence employee-Disabled Vet.  It`s not like I`m rich or something.  Besides that BSplayer works better for DivX.  I haven`t messed with DivX in about 4 years since I got a DVD burner.  Anyway the point I was trying to get across is Windows waste alot of resorces.  If AmigaOS was port to x86, sure it will be faster, but nothing you have amiga will run on it.  Everything would have to be rewritten.  Like Dave said "make the best of it" is true.  But we users are too busy fighting over Red team, Blue team, to unite under a common goal.  Apple can afford to take the chance to change.  You can nail apples to a telephone pole, but that don`t make it an apple tree.  True the A1 and Pegasos are not true custom hardware Amigas.  Dave would know that`s for sure, but at least the programs still run on PPC.  x86 there`s Aros.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2006, 06:29:08 PM »
Like always to disagree with Dave Haynie, is like going in a catholic church and talking bad about the pope.  Welcome to the new Microsoft.org, never noticed so many Windows fans before. Anyway, Sony takes the Pegasos2-toy so serious that the have their Sony-Europe running off of it.  OpenSolaris found it`s way to it. Along with many Linux distros.  Apple will still have PPC for awhile. Genesi is doing better now more than ever with thier partners.  Not bad for a toy company. Way to go Bill.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2006, 06:48:18 PM »
@CHR_ZD
 :roflmao: OK man, you win, I`ll reinstall the codecs.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2006, 01:27:48 PM »
Why should OS4 be ported to x86?  I think AROS has came along way.  Anyone who feels they must have an AmigaOS on x86 can use it.  It`s open source, Aros users are all for people helping to develope it.  It may one day be better than OS4.  They choices are all ready in front of everyone.  It doesn`t have a big AMIGA sticker on it.  Dave is a legend no dought about that, but alot of people have worked hard over the past years to try to keep things going.  If all the "neo-Amiga" companys said, the market is too small it`s not worth it for us to do it, we would still be sitting around with 3.1 installed.  No new hardware, no new software.  This topic has been talked about for years.  None of use have alot of say in how to make it better (Aros not included).  Dave Haynie has giving the community alot.  It would be kinda nice if Dave could be active in some future development.  Maybe a new mainboard, even a low scale 68060 would be cool. (Just for hobby users)
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2006, 01:50:30 PM »
@ T_Bone
  I use MorphOS because it is backwards compatable with Amiga 68k/WOS.  I can`t speak about OS4, because I don`t have an A1, but if I did I would say the same for it.  If more boards go into production I will buy one.  If someone writes a PPCAmiga emulator for x86, I`ll download or buy it, because there are still some cool Wos/Mos apps out there.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2006, 02:58:59 PM »
@T_Bone
Yes Sony does not sell an OS or a computer.  What I never understood is everyone says that the cost of PPC is so high because there isn`t a large demand for PPC.  Yet there are millions of Playstations out there alone without PPC computers put in these numbers.  Each with a PPC inside.
Intel was not always a cheap way to go.  It wasn`t until years of progress from AMD that lowered the price.  IBM will still have Apple as a partner a while longer.  They sold their PC divison.  There is not that many PPC mainboard companys out there.  Could this be the time the IBM looks to Amiga?  Maybe not, but MorphOS has about 2000 users or so.  Now from the BBRV blog"It is hard not to look ahead to 2006 with a little excitement. We closed out the end of the year with our first orders for the Open Server Workstation and our first big (50,000 units)"  That`s alot of MorphOS compatiable computers is it not.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2006, 03:22:49 PM »
Ok correction noted.  I was thinking RISC for some reason
(Just a little general information, what is the chips that are used in the Mac's?


Unlike windows computers and the old Mac's that use CISC (Compressed Instruction Set Computing) chips, todays current Macintoshes use RISC (Reduced Instruction Set Computing) chips. Hence we have the difference between the old CISC 680x0 Macintosh computers, the Quadra's, II's, LC's and early (three number) Performa's, and todays new Power Mac's, Performa's and clones. Today software is being written that is "Power Mac Native", so what's the difference?)

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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2006, 03:47:35 PM »
@bloodline
Ok there is enough logic in your post, that even I can see that the only future for now is x86.  Scary.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2006, 04:24:05 PM »
I wonder what kind of a bussiness path IBM will take.  Like you said they could design processors to compete with processors like the Athlon64 and Intel Core Duo.  They big question is will they?  Bill Gates said that Linux is nothing to worry about, it was IBM.  If there is a stagnation of development of desktop capable PPC chips, like you said, then the only clear path for many of Amiga developers is to go to PC hardware.  A smart move by Airsoft Softwair, as to develope in all directions with Hollywood 2.0.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2006, 04:39:27 PM »
@T_Bone
I`d say they have The OpenSolaris project, or Linux in mind.
More than likely none will use MorphOS.  The Genesi plan was "ride the linux wave".  It will atleast keep a bussiness going that makes hardware that can run MorphOS.  Perhaps some of people that use these machine will try MorphOS.
This atleast is good for users that the hardware still be available.  The Morph community kinda accepted this.
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Re: Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2006, 06:13:47 PM »
@ dammy X86 is dead, X86-64 is the future.

Ok you know what I meant.  Instead of pancakes it`s waffles we should think about.
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