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A4000 with Video Toaster 4000 - Multiple Problems
« on: April 10, 2013, 08:02:22 PM »
Hi All, I'm a novice with Amigas and I could really use some help.

A few years ago, I bought an A4000, an Amiga monitor (not sure of the model number), a Video Toaster 4000, two Personal TBCs and a CDROM drive, because the 4000 didn't come with one and the installers for the Toaster were on a CD. I opened up the A4000 and the battery was corroded. By Google search, I figured out that the best solution was to just cut it out, and the system ran fine...but I couldn't get the Toaster to work. The seller assured me many times that the Toaster was fully tested and it worked. So, I put it in my storage closet out of frustration. Last year, I decided to take it out of storage and work on it again. This time, I bought an IDE/CF card interface with a 4GB card and ran the A4000 on that instead of the stock hard drive. I STILL couldn't get the Toaster to work, and it went back in the storage closet. This week, I watched the documentary The Deathbed Vigil, and was inspired by the stories and camaraderie of the Commodore workers to really give it a try again. This time, I've spent days thoroughly going through the problems I'm having with this system. Here's what I've come up with:

1. There's a problem with the RAM. I have four SIMMS in the machine. There are three 4MB SIMMS, and one SIMM that I'm not sure of the size. When I open up WorkBench, it says that I have, "1,6xxx,xxx graphics mem, 0 other mem".

2. When I boot up the system with the Toaster installed, I get a blank screen. Nothing happens. Neither the CF card nor the stock hard drive will boot with the Toaster installed. I take it out, and it will boot up fine into WorkBench with either the CF card or the stock hard drive. I removed the analog board from the Toaster to make sure all the jumpers underneath the analog board were set correctly, and they were, but the chip on the analog board popped out when I removed it. I put the chip back in place before reattaching the board. Also, I connected a camera to the first input and monitors to the Preview and Main Outputs. The camera shows up on both of them with the power on, so the Toaster is working in some capacity, the system just refuses to boot into WorkBench or into the Switcher program.

3. I tried the Personal TBCs without the Toaster installed. I installed them and the software and everything worked fine. When I tried to run the Toaster software, it said "could not obtain FAST memory" and froze up.

I Google searched all of these problems and I can't find a clear solution. Is there a bad jumper setting? Something that needs to be reseated? Do I have bad RAM? Please help me solve this, because my frustrations have reached the point of just eBaying all of this stuff, which I don't really want to do.
 

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Re: A4000 with Video Toaster 4000 - Multiple Problems
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2013, 02:46:16 AM »
I ran the memory tests, and it looks like it might be fried RAM sockets as suspected, but the chip RAM socket is OK... I put each SIMM individually in each of the four sockets and got "0 other mem" on all of them. Sometimes I had to keep reseating them, or else I'd get a purple screen or a yellow screen.

I don't have a lot of experience with Multimeters, although I do have one. I usually use it to test batteries. I'm not even sure where to put the positive lead and what proper voltages would be.

Given the prices of accelerators, it might just be cheaper to get another A2000/3000/4000 to use the Toaster and the Personal TBCs...how much can I expect to sell an A4000 with fried RAM sockets?
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Re: A4000 with Video Toaster 4000 - Multiple Problems
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2013, 03:41:33 AM »
Quote from: SACC-guy;731806
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The battery acid will keep eating at the traces
STOP the acid burn first.

I have no idea how to do that, or what would visually indicate where battery acid would be eating away at the traces, but I'm willing to learn if someone knows.

I think the best short term solution is to get a ZorRAM card as Mike suggested. It's reasonably priced and most likely cheaper than trying to buy another system. If it turns out that there are more problems and I still have to buy another system, the ZorRAM card would still be useful. Thanks for the advice all.
 

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Re: A4000 with Video Toaster 4000 - Multiple Problems
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2013, 05:34:28 AM »
Thank you very much, I will try that.
 

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Re: A4000 with Video Toaster 4000 - Multiple Problems
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2013, 09:29:33 PM »
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Use a solution of vinegar and baking soda to neutralise the ph


Questions about this:
What kind of mixture do I need for the vinegar and baking soda? Do I also apply that with a cotton swab? Should I wait for it to dry before applying the alcohol? Also, how long should it take to dry before I can power on?
 

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Re: A4000 with Video Toaster 4000 - Multiple Problems
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2013, 08:20:52 PM »
I jumped in and took a guess on the baking soda/vinegar solution. Cleaned around the battery area, the C192 cap with the solution and then around all those areas plus the RAM slot contacts with rubbing alcohol. Here are before and after pics:

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I put the RAM back and started it up. When I put a SIMM into the slot next to the chip ram (labeled Bank 0), I get a purple screen. With that slot empty and the SIMMs in the other three slots, it still says "0 other mem".
 

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Re: A4000 with Video Toaster 4000 - Multiple Problems
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2013, 02:15:10 AM »
I haven't disassembled the 4000 that far. I would only take the motherboard out of the case if it were necessary for a repair.