S/H Cybervision 64/3d...please don't say it's DOA!!!!

[Tajmaster]

Hi All

Its amazing, the Amiga has been around so long that someone somewhere will have had the same problem as you, no matter how strange! LOL

Anyway, I am having the exact same issue as the OP here and Im stuck as to what it could be. Heres the rundown:

Hardware spec:
Amiga 4000 Desktop (rev B motherboard I think)
68040 CPU (standard Commodore board that came with the Amiga 4000) rev 3.1
Socketed Buster 11
2MB Chip 16MB Fast
DCE Cybervision 64/3D MK2
IDE hard drive (I think its the original one Commodore installed)
Optical drive (on the IDE bus, its a Lite-On CDRW)
Kickstart 3.0
Workbench 3.0

Nothing additional attached externally or internally.

What Ive done:

I installed the CV64/3D (with great difficulty I might add) into the bottom Z3 slot. There was a network card installed in the top slot at this point (Its a LANrover card).
I installed the software onto WB as per the instructions (via the 2 disks that came with it, labelled as V3 of the software). All went OK and I rebooted. I got the same error the first guy got (exactly the same at the same time).

Troubleshooting Ive done:
Reinstalled WB from scratch, no patches or additions at all - no effect
Reinstalled the software (Cybergraphics) several times over - same issue every time.
Installed Picasso96 on a clean WB install - the board is not seen in P96Mode (I think thats what it is called??) and running the monitor driver doesnt bring up any screenmodes.
Checked Early Startup Menu, the board is identified everytime and shown working.
Changed Z3 slots - no effect
Installed CGX3 on clean install WB - no effect
Downloaded CGX3 and installed on clean install WB - no effect
Removed network card - no effect.

Im stuck as to what to do Ive only got KS 3.1 to try and Ive noticed a "map ROM" jumper on the CPU card that I might try and disable.

Ive got an A2000 Im waiting for a 3.1 ROM to be delivered for that Im going to try the card in too to make sure the card is OK but the guy I got it off (on eBay) said it was working, he has good feedback so Ive no reason to question him It was packed VERY well so I cant see it being damaged in the post and Ive checked over the board and it doesnt look damaged at all.

Does anyone have any ideas or something else I can try? I was going to buy some 3.1 ROMs from Amigakit but they arent in stock so that will have to wait.

Sorry for the long post
Thanks in advance
Taj

[Tajmaster]

I forgot to say, the battery was removed long ago and there is no sign of any leakage

[Tajmaster]

Thanks DoctorQ, Ill try it right now

[Tajmaster]

Thanks for the responses guys, I appreciate it
 
Ive tried 68040.library V44 but that didnt work either, so I will try V46 as per Steves comments
 
@RMK305
 
Yeah Ive tried clean installing it. WB doesnt take that long to install but man do I miss the imaging software like I have on the PC! LOL I think ive reinstalled 5 or 6 times now! :roflmao:
 
Ive also gone over every jumper on the motherboard and the CPU card to check they are all at default settings and they are. Id be gutted if I cant get this to work, I got it for next to nothing (it was part of a job lot of Amiga stuff) and its clean and white. Hope it not the card, although Ill know for sure when I get the A2000 KS3.1 ROM in a few days
 
Thanks again all
 
Taj

[Tajmaster]

Tried the V46 library, no luck
 
Im going to clean install OS3 again cos its probably a bit mashed after all the library swapping and crashing.
 
Ill let you know how I get on
 
Taj

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LOL, yeah Im selecting the CV64/3D Im hoping that ROM arrives so I can try it in the A2000, its really bugging me know, Ive got an awful feeling that the card may be faulty

Ive got WB 3.1, does anyone know if I can install it on a machine with 3.0 ROMs? I want try installing 3.1 on the A4000 to see if it helps.

[Tajmaster]

Yep going to do that ASAP Ive got an A2000 with a Commodore 2630 accelerator, 2091 SCSI card and a retina GFX card but it has KS2.0 so Ive ordered WB & KS3.1 and as soon as it arrives Im going to put the CV64/3d in and test it via clean WB 3.1 install, Ill let you know how it goes, should be a day or two before it arrives

[Tajmaster]

Amigakit.com have some A4000 3.1 ROMs in stock!!! Ive ordered some to see if it fixes this issue. Will post my findings as soon as I have them

[Tajmaster]

Got the A2000 3.1 ROM today, Ill try install it tonight and update the thread BTW, I payed £15 for the 3.1 and OS3.1 disks, is that good? Or expensive? The A4000 ROM only was £34 at AmigaKit so Im guessing that its a good price?
Taj

[Tajmaster]

I think my CV64/3D is duff
 
I got the 3.1 ROM for the A2000, clean installed WB (no patches) and installed CGX3 via the install disks that come with the card. It just freezes the computer right up as soon as the monitor driver is loaded.
 
I downloaded CGX3 and the exact same thing happens.
 
I clean installed WB again (no patches) and install P96 (downloaded from aminet). It crashes when starting the monitor driver too.
 
Im stumped I dunno why it says its working on the early startup menu but will not run in the OS on 2 different Amiga's on 2 different graphics subsystems :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
 
Guess I need to contact the seller now, I hope he will refund it.
 
Thanks for the suggestions guys

[Tajmaster]

I tried P96 v2.0 but I havent got CGX v4 to try it with. I would have throught that a well supported card like the CV64/3D wouldnt have a problem on 2 Amigas with no additional software or odd hardware plugged in other than a standard Commodore accelerator card (and a 2091 SCSI in the case of the A2000).
 
Reading the listing again it appears as if the seller never actually used it properly (as in installed drivers and put it up on a monitor), even though the listing states its in "good working condition". He says he has a PicassoIV and has "never needed to use it", with reference to the CV64/3D. He appears to have just looked at the early startup screen, which as I have said, shows it working.
 
I got it for £85 quid, I guess that is wasnt a bargain after all then eh :huh:
 
Anyway, Ive emailed the seller and hopefully he will either let me know what to do to make it work or give me a refund

[Tajmaster]

I was watching this card also just to have as a spare. From looking at the listing again I wonder if he did infact know it wasn't working properly, or he couldn't get it to work properly, hence why he only has the early diagnostic screen-but then I often tend to think the worst of a lot of people. I hope he gives you a refund but I suspect that it will be a case of it was working when I sent it as shown in the pictures.
 
Did you pay with paypal and a credit card? If so, you will be covered by your credit card company even if paypal are their usual useless selfs.
 
Robert

I payed via Paypal. I emailed the seller tonight so lets see what he says

[Tajmaster]

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=536393
 
http://phase5.a1k.org/files/cv64_3d_en.pdf

Thanks for the links I read through the thread you have linked but I have already changed my librarys to no avail I even tried the librarys on my A2000 even though it only has an 030 just in case......yes, Im getting desperate now! LOL :roflmao:

[Tajmaster]

That's a pretty good deal. KS 3.1 by itself typically runs $20 here in the states and I've seen the WB disks fetch anywhere from $10-$20.

The guy is on eBay, and still has some left AFAIK. This is his "items for sale" page if you are looking for a ROM for your A2000:
 
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/3071michael

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Bummer indeed Im waiting for the seller to get back to me. Ive been browsing Amibay a lot latley, Im going to have to sign up there to get a graphics for the A4000....a working one! LOL :lol: