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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« on: April 06, 2012, 11:28:10 AM »
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OK, lets get something straight, I am a real Amiga person, I use my Amiga's everyday and use them. I am not a fake Amiga person who sold their old silicon and then chime in that I use "MorphOS Amiga done right" right where, how and why, prove it. Run Pen Pal, Wadsworth, Final Copy, DPaint, etc. Show me a new browser that can keep up with todays sites so you can surf the web, play mp3's, watch videos and play movies. I have a hard time loading up MorphOS (I don't and won't buy old used up Mac silicon, for that matter I won't buy new Mac silicon)


Most of these legacy apps work just fine (and faster than any Amiga). Most of my settings and software from my good old A4k are still there on my Pegasos and Macs. It just feels faster. :)

As for the browser, i guess you haven't followed too closely. Odyssey scores currently 365 + 15 points at html5test.com, i.e better than FireFox 11, Opera 11 and Safari 5.1, even though a couple features like workers and webgl had to be disabled, unfortunately. It will also play many streaming sites like youtube, dailymotion, vimeo (and more efficiently than OSX in that regard, since there's much less overhead).

As for playing movies and playing MP3, we also have several players out there that handle about all known formats (mplayer for instance). The only trouble is playing 1080p h.264 content fast enough (it still does it faster than OSX and Linux by a good margin, in any case).
 

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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2012, 01:42:44 PM »
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And 1080p MKV or HD Flash/Youtube or Blu-Ray playback? 1 core of a 2.8ghz  i7 can do this but G4 can not for sure. Like I said PPC iMO is 90s CPU design so OS4/MOS are stuck unless an IBM Xenon PPC motherboard and AOS/MOS version comes out. Aros only needs a VLC software port, the hardware is there, massive difference.


MorphOS was experimented on a G5 a couple months (years?) ago, and playing 1080p H.264 was definitely no trouble, even on a single core of the dual/quad 2.7GHz G5.

And what's with VLC? MPlayer (which is available on MorphOS, AROS and OS4) is very capable in this regard (often more, actually), and more efficient than VLC...

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Will we never have a need for more than G4 speeds? Unlikely. Will HD Youtube capable browser exist for Aros/MOS/OS4 or something like VLC? Eventually. Will things like 1080p video make an OS more appealing? Definitely. Can even G5 deliver this power? Unlikely.


Sure, more speed is wanted for this kind of things. Noone will deny that. Odyssey Web Browser for MorphOS can actually play HD Youtube itself (in overlay mode for best speed), for your information. 720p ones should be playable on some 1.5-2GHz G4 machines... And it's definitely no trouble to play them in MPlayer as well.

Here's a screenshot for you (try to do this on UAE :)):
http://fabportnawak.free.fr/owbshots/youtube.png
 

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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2012, 02:03:53 PM »
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VLC does support an idiotic number of codecs (though I will admit that Mplayer is easier to use).


Well, so does MPlayer. Both VLC and MPlayer rely mainly on ffmpeg for video/audio decoding plus a couple other libraries. Both can also make use of libbluray for instance, though it's still not mature enough.

The latest MPlayer version I compiled supports 175 audio codecs and 376 video codecs. Show me something MPlayer can't play, actually. :)

Anyway, I don't like VLC too much, the only advantage i see with it is its streaming server abilities. VLC was also ported to MorphOS a couple years ago, btw. It didn't bring anything compared to MPlayer, though.
 

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Re: MorphOS ahead of AROS?
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2012, 03:41:05 PM »
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Multicast video streaming also comes to mind.   I can't watch my network tv tuner with Mplayer but I can with VLC.


MPlayer supports multicast streaming, and rtp/rtsp protocols (it might require live555 library to work with some streams). But you might have a built where it's disabled. Also, multicast won't work with AmiTCP-likes. MIAMI supported it, though.

As for TV tuners, that's quite a mess, but it mostly depends on v4l on Linux, anyway, so it should work, in theory (might need esotheric options, though).