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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« on: June 04, 2011, 08:55:49 AM »
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Then he shall change the name to avoid confusion with the OWB that was ported to Amiga as well.

You're right about that. I really should change the name, and i even know which one i'll use. I've just been too lazy to change it.

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You are using all these handy Firefox extensions on the other browsers. Can you share how?

For a start, OWB MorphOS comes with several builtin features that firefox only has as extensions or not at all (to my knowledge):
- webinspector (firebug extension on firefox)
- ad/content blocker (adblockplus or whatever on firefox)
- userscript support (greasemonkey on firefox)
- on demand or automatic session loading/saving (sessionplus or so on firefox?)
- per-url settings (spoofing, images, plugins, ...) like ibrowse
- network activity monitoring
- per-tab private browsing
and a couple others like that...

And about automation, userscripts allow to do quite a lot in that regard. And the REXX support would as well for other aspects (i doubt timberwolf has any kind of REXX port, by the way (not that it would be hard to add)).

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If I want to use AmigaOS 4.1 library functions, I don't need to recompile my software for AmigaOS 4.0 if I want it to run on classic Amiga machines. Because AmigaOS 4.1 is available for classic Amiga machines. With MOS it is not the same case.

On the other hand, you don't always have to enforce the latest OS version for nothing (and avoid being as annoying as OSX in that regard). Latest OWB MorphOS version still runs on MorphOS 1.4 (including classic, even if memory and cpu requirements don't really make it really useful on such hw) with some features disabled.
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2011, 10:10:30 AM »
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Not a public version for any laptop. All these major numberings are in fact minor updates.
AmigaOS 4 was shown X1000. Does this count or not?


Minor updates that added several new supported models, new features and bug fixes. Ok, let's call them minor updates.
Can you tell me how any OS4 update was major, now?

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MorphOS is limited. No proper filesystems, no memory protection, no virtual memory, no enough ported applications. Best thing to do with MorphOS is to boot it to another OS.


Err, and how exactly is OS4 performing on these areas, exactly?
There's no memory protection, the virtual memory is best turned off because it's buggy as hell with some apps anyway. What's your proper filesystem?
And if you exclude SDL and cygnix 5 minutes jobs, how many proper ports do you have?

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On the other hand AmigaOS 4 fully replaced my AmigaOS 3 installation. I use AREXX scripts daily, they work the same way as they worked before. That's transparent upgrade.


Just as they work on MorphOS... On the other hand Magellan still doesn't work on OS4.
 

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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2011, 10:28:38 AM »
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Regarding Magellan one could argue if it's better to have the functions of Magellan in the OS instead of runing an old, never to be upgraded replacement? I agree that it's good to have around while functions are lacking but the goal is to replace Magellan and not having to need it. I sure hope that it will be replaced (not talking just about AOS now).

Sure, and Ambient actually takes inspiration from Magellan in many aspects.
But it's actually a greater concern for OS4 where the Workbench really shows its limitations as a filemanager or even modern desktop (despite all the commodities/patches trying to enhance it). Filer OS4 is a good step to have a proper file manager, but it should really be integrated in the workbench itself.
 

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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2011, 04:04:00 PM »
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D'oh!  well then, now I know :D

And yes, spoofing, although I usually connotate "spoofing" as a negative act, whereas me trying to access my bank and being told by their POS website "We only support IE" makes me hot under the collar.


In fact, spoofing (as well as other settings like plugins, images, ...) can be controlled at 3 different priority levels, from the highest to lowest :
- from pulldown menu
- on a per-url basis (with pattern support). Useful when you want to spoof a site as ipad and disable Flash, to get HTML5 video, for instance. But there are many other interesting possibilities.
- globally in owb preferences

And this is basically how Ibrowse handled it too (and it was a good thing to take inspiration from :)).