Public Release of MorphOS 2.6 & Introduction of PowerMac Support

[Fab]

Try finding a decent office suite and a modern web browser for MOS.

The browser is rather modern (quite obvious since it's based on a very recent WebKit version). And there are native applications for most standard needs too (video, audio, net, emulators, opensource games, filesharing, ...)

You may be right it lacks an office suite. However, I'm not sure Office work is the 1st thing people expect from their "home OS" when they come back from work (but well, that's just me .

[Fab]

At least HW is now inexpensive thanks to Apple... :-P

MorphOS lacks on the software side but OWB is pretty good. It lacks Java and Flash support is what it is but what can be done? There arent much to do about it.

There *is* Flash support (up to Flash , when you install the plugin.

[Fab]

"Rather modern"  or "recent" is very subjective and relative.  Sure, it's based on web kit, an older version than the one in use on most systems today and there's no flash support, no download manager, no plug-ins, and CSS support is flaky.  And when I come home and need a real tool to get real work done, I switch on a PC running Linux or Windows.  If I want to play games or use a toy, well, there you go.  There's MOS or OS4....or a UAE variant.  Oh, but wait....no game development there anymore and no Media Center app that can play DVDs or BluRay/HD.

Err, i think you're greatly mistaken here:
First, the webkit revision in OWB 1.10 is likely more recent than yours, since i use nightly revisions. OWB 1.10 is based on 2nd september 2010 WebKit SVN state. Isn't that recent enough?
Besides, it has a full download manager with resume support and remembers downloads across sessions, it has plugin support (swfdec for Flash), it supports HTML5 video (Theora, H264, WebM), it has a very conform Javascript/CSS/Whatever support (it scores 100/100 at Acid3 and 198/300 at html5test.com... try the same with browsers like firefox or IE .

MPlayer is perfectly able to play all kind of media (DVD, streaming, audio and even HD H264 files where OSX crawls miserably), ...

Are you sure you don't confuse OS4 with MorphOS too much here?

[Fab]

@ Golem!DK nicholas and TakeMeHomeGrandma

I'm not out of touch at all.  You asked me when I last "USED" MOS.  That implies real work.  I last TRIED to use it for real work back in Dec 2008.  It wasswitched on last about 2 months ago.  I follow Amiga and MOS development daily.  Just 2 months ago I tried installing the latest OWB and Netsurf on it.  Installing and configuring both was a nightmare and they're still filled with bugs and crash regularly.  I don'k like spending hours troubleshooting buggy software.  My time is worth more to me than that.  Not my idea of fun, so my PegII was switched off again until I see something WORTHWHILE to install on it again.

Well, unless you really booted OS4 instead of MorphOS, it's just bullshit. First OWB doesn't even have to be installed since it's supplied with the OS, and besides, installing it is a matter of copying it wherever you like. It's also certainly not that crash-prone either. And i'm quite certain you didn't try it anyway, since you said earlier there was no download manager, flaky css, no plugin, which is totally wrong (some of these are there since the very first 1.0 release).

[Fab]

Doubt all you want.  The lastest OWB for OS4 stalled about 6 months ago and that's where it's likely to stay.  It caused nothing but problems on my PegII.  I tried installing MOS OWB 1.6 on my PegII, same story.  Next tried Netsurf.....even worse disaster.  Too much trouble and too little offered for me to keep wasting my time with any of them.

My guess is you were mainly an OS4 user, and you only rarely booted in MorphOS, assuming the level of these applications was the same. That's why you didn't even notice there was a download manager, plugins, adblockers, configure mimetypes, ... (i could add quite many there). I also won't comment about the "nothing but problems" part, because that's clearly not the general experience.

Anyway, no need to discuss further. It's clear these platforms don't suit you anymore and that you don't have much interest in them anymore, but please avoid commenting about the so-called deficiencies of software you obviously didn't even try, though.

[Fab]

Exactly my point.  What software?  There really isn't much beyond 68k software and a web browser.  Sure, those run pretty fast because they don't use or need 3D acceleration or anything else we've come to expect from current GPUs and systems.

Ok, second round.

We could really use faster gfx cards even with the software/games we have currently. Here are a few examples games or applications:

- Blender
- Stellarium
- Freespace 2
- Homeworld
- Aquaria
- Quake 3 and all its (more heavy) mods
- Return to Castle Wolftenstein and Wolftenstein: Enemy Territory (not released yet)
- Warzone2100
- UFO alien invasion
- Neverball
...

Most of them run good enough on Radeons, but it wouldn't hurt to have faster gfx cards to run some of them with higher details/resolution/whatever.

And by the way, OWB would benefit of an hw-accelerated cairo too (but there's no 3d stuff involved there).