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How do I install installer?
« on: August 16, 2009, 04:53:25 PM »
I've been trying this for hours.  I got the Installer v43.3 from Aminet.  I keep following different instructions in different places and they're all dead wrong.  I've keep copying the contents of this decompressed installer disk to SYS:C then I tried SYS:S then SYS: then SYS:SYSTEM and nothing works.  It's always cannot open your tool installer.  Why?  Why is this so hard?  Why do I need a separate program not included in Workbench to install IDE Fix 97?

How do I do this?  I'm sick.  I've had this Amiga 4000 since June and have been trying to get a CD-ROM installed since then and cannot do it!  Can someone link me to a tutorial?  There must be a tutorial.  Nothing this hard doesn't have some kind of instructions.  The readme files on IDE Fix Demo don't tell anything.  Nothing says anything about anything.  No instructions come with installer.  This is retarded.  I just want a CD-ROM to work for God sakes!

Yes Hard Disk configured to master at the end of the cable and CD-ROM configured as slave.  This isn't any jumper bs.  I need to know how do I run this installer.  I need exact instructions on what to type in when this disk with Installer v43.3 is in my drive.  HELP i've been trying for months@!

It's workbench 3.1 and I have 3.0 rom in my 4000*

i also reinstalled workbench two times because I thought this was something to do with me doing something else wrong.  i'm really out of ideas.  i keep reading how easy this is to do.  but i can't do it.  just got my worthless A+ certification last week and been working on computers since about 1997.  I do not understand.  I have read so much.  This is NOT working.

I also bought 2 boards neither one of which I could get to work.  Speedup-System and Catweasel.  But Catweasel wasn't for IDE that was so you could hook regular PC floppy drives to your Amiga.  I didn't really need it.  Then I have this Oktagon IDE card coming soon from a friend, but I keep reading the same thing that you are supposed to put the CD-ROM as slave and Hard Disk as master on the native (single one that's there) IDE chain, then use IDE Fix software to make it work.
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Re: How do I install installer?
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2009, 05:17:00 PM »
eh apologies i'm getting a little dramatic here and seriously need some sleep.  that isn't working.  i've copied it to c.  does ide fix require some really old version of installer?  is that why "can't open tool installer" ?

I heard some other poster have this problem too and people didn't seem to get what he was saying.  He had updated his installer and was wondering why IDE Fix wasn't working.  Same here.  I'll recopy it to C: again but it didn't do anything.  So whatever version of Installer was in there before was the one that came on Workbench 3.1 and then the v43.3, latest official release version of the installer is what I put in C: and when that didn't work put in S: and so on and so forth.
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Re: How do I install installer?
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2009, 05:34:59 PM »
Quote from: Golem!dk;519518
Check if the icon doesn't specify a path for the installer (SYS:Utilities is the correct location).


K I'm trying this first.  Someone else saying it's SYS:C but that wasn't doing anything.  I think SYS:Utilities and SYS:Expansion are the only SYS: dir I didn't try it in yet :/

@caesar
Please open a shell and type the following command:

version c:installer

then post the result.[/QUOTE]

ok i'll post the result
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Re: How do I install installer?
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2009, 05:40:58 PM »
Quote from: motorollin;519522
The IDEfix install icon just specifies "Installer" as its default tool, so putting it anywhere in the path should work. On OS3.1, Installer resides in the C: directory, so overwriting the file C:Installer with the one from Aminet should work.

@caesar
Please open a shell and type the following command:

version c:installer

then post the result.


Installer 43.3
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Re: How do I install installer?
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2009, 05:46:11 PM »
i already tried that

I get guru error when i change the icon's path to C:Install

Before I installed this new installer, 43.3, it was guru error every time i double clicked.

i got to goto bed.
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Re: How do I install installer?
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2009, 05:57:35 PM »
Quote from: motorollin;519532
Oh sorry. Ok, in the shell CD to the directory where the IDEfix installer is. Then type

c:installer installsoftware

and see if that works.


no need to be sorry.  no it's not working.  all i can do now is do fresh workbench install a 3rd time and i don't really know man.  really no clue.  i never had this much problem with installer before.  Had some games where I had to edit some line or create a DIR but never had something screw up like this when I try to install.  i really wish i could just get an ide fix that has an installer on it but i downloaded the one everyone says to get, idefix97 from aminet.  and i did a protect idefix97.lha +RWED then the lha_68000 e idefix97.lha on the amiga.  So it's not like it's corrupted unless the file from aminet was bad to begin with but i don't think so.  i don't get it anymore.
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Re: How do I install installer?
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2009, 06:11:02 PM »
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No wonder, C:Install is a shell command used to make a floppy bootable. But try to run installer in a shell, just to verify that it works.

no installer will not run in a shell either.  i have tried all these little things already.

i didn't try C:Install because i thought it would work i tried it because i am desparate.
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Re: How do I install installer?
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2009, 06:18:22 PM »
installer: file is not executable

i tried running c:installer and running it from utilities.  it's off aminet.  i don't know why it's not working.  i'm going to go back there and download it again and try it again.  they had 2 versions which appeared to be the same though.
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Re: How do I install installer?
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2009, 06:39:50 PM »
It says under $VER in information for InstallSoftware $VER: Install.info 38.3 (05.09.95)

So where do I get the installer version 38.3?
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Re: How do I install installer?
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2009, 06:45:18 PM »
i certainly did.  no luck with any of it.  i gotta go now.  only reason i'm trying to do this is i'm going to not buy a bunch of upgrades for amiga 4000 which i was going to get if i could get this cd-rom to work.  i don't know what i'm going to do with this huge useless box.  guess it goes under the stairs till i sell it on ebay
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Re: How do I install installer?
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2009, 01:25:50 AM »
here was the problem: i have a LAN adapter on my A1200 but not on my A4000.  So I needed to copy everything to floppy otherwise there was no way I could get it to my 4000.  After I got the files extracted on my 1200 I needed to copy them to a floppy to get them to my 4000.  I installed Directory Opus 5.5 on my 1200 and then on an empty floppy, did a makedir and made all dirs that were in the unzipped .lha of IDEFix.  Then did a copy/move (I chose move) making sure I was in the correct directory on the IDEFix floppy like the c: directory and copying all the files over by selecting them all and doing the move command with Directory Opus.  Same for home dir of the floppy.  I noticed when using the copy shell command in regular workbench I probably entered the wrong switch but for whatever reason it didn't copy the directories and everything in them.  So it never was anything to do with "Installer" and my Workbench 3.1 had a high enough version to install.  Everything is now working, emulating CD32 and sealed back up now.

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