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I would/wouldn't like a production run of 060's
« on: August 18, 2013, 12:30:48 PM »
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Is there enough desire for kickstarter funded production run of 060's. If so would they have to be faster than 50mhz? Or is 50mhz enough?

As an alternative should we try and get a run of 50mhz 030's?

I would settle for a 50mhz 060 model with working FPU. I could afford to pay $200 for one (CPU only) plus some more for kickstarter.

Are there general purpose fabs that can do a run of 1,000-2,000 chips?

Otherwise I'll settle for the less expensive FPGA route.
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Re: I would/wouldn't like a production run of 060's
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2013, 01:53:50 PM »
$30,000 is halfway there.
I'm sure some unemployed ex Amiga user could do the whole thing for $60,000.

I think that someone will get around to the JIT on UAE eventually so maybe no need for a kickstarter on that.
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Re: I would/wouldn't like a production run of 060's
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2013, 11:39:07 PM »
If there is still a supply left then that is good enough.

As you add more clock speed the performance increases become less. So that means redesign of the CPU and more cost.
There will be a heap of modern software you will want to run that requires at least 1Ghz.

FPGA has none of the prohibitive cost in designing a cpu.
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Re: I would/wouldn't like a production run of 060's
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2013, 06:17:19 AM »
@Cosmos
There is no mention of Amiga compatibility. Was it to run emulated? 68k Linux would have ran on it.
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Re: I would/wouldn't like a production run of 060's
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2013, 05:55:41 AM »
I would think that everyone who wanted a 060 or 030 would have one by now.

The only thing to do is to go for more speed. That would not be cheap by doing the CPU first.

FPGA gives you the ability to keep optimising the CPU.
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Re: I would/wouldn't like a production run of 060's
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2013, 07:38:38 AM »
@ above
The thrill of having the classic hardware/software perform at an amazing speed. When an emulator does it, its not a big deal.

I'm not pushing for this, but it will be awesome (when it happens) and 100% compatible as oppose to when we got PowerPC accelerators at 200-300mhz.
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Re: I would/wouldn't like a production run of 060's
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2013, 08:13:19 AM »
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It's an expensive thrill. A reconfigurable FPGA computer would be much better, you'd get a thrill every time someone created a new personality for it.

Oh, I thought that you could have both. You could fit heaps of functions on an accelerator card as well.

I agree. It might be a big bottleneck when accessing the classic hardware. Sought of like the switch between 16-bit and 32-bit RAM.
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Re: I would/wouldn't like a production run of 060's
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2013, 11:34:18 PM »
Don't throw the thread off on a tangent.
There are only two subjects: A CPU faster than an 060. It's in the works already.
Also the standalone FPGA based Amiga.

It will really be based on demand. Nobody is going to make a card unless there is demand for one.
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