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Re: PC still playing Amiga catchup
« Reply #44 from previous page: June 20, 2009, 05:47:12 PM »
This thread reminds me of another famous argument. Check out 2:59 on this vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q2ABS7wSxU&feature=topvideos

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Re: PC still playing Amiga catchup
« Reply #45 on: June 21, 2009, 07:31:29 AM »
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Offcourse they don't.


These consoles are treated as individual platforms. The PC(Games For Windows) is just like any other gaming platforms.

Dell’s direct sale model doesn’t require the classic retail model.


"Pssst, hey buddy, here is a 50 if you display my console games up front k".
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Re: PC still playing Amiga catchup
« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2009, 10:53:13 AM »
The Great Windows Disk Access Caper:

as an experiment in leanness I turn off file indexing in Windows XP. It takes longer to search for files, but at the same time there are no random disk accesses. I'm still being taxed up to %20 CPU at idle, but this probably a 3rd party app doing that. I shall have a look for it.
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Re: PC still playing Amiga catchup
« Reply #47 on: June 21, 2009, 11:59:40 AM »
I don't see why amigaksi can't acknowledge the Catweasel Mk IV, I assume it has it's own clock/timer on board.:bitch:
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Re: PC still playing Amiga catchup
« Reply #48 on: June 21, 2009, 01:14:21 PM »
CD32 vs SNES:

Q: How big was the SNES marketing in the USA?
In Australia the C64 and the A500 were the most popular games machine until Playstation came along. SNES got the highest penetration because of Mario and Street Fighter, from anecdotal evidence.
I realise it was the -soon to be bankrupt Escoms- job to reissue the CD32, so ignore that fact.

I don't have much energy for this argument, just mild curiosity. On the plus side I'm think you could turn all this into a book: a final footnote in the Amiga history.
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Re: PC still playing Amiga catchup
« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2009, 01:53:16 PM »
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Just when you thought it was safe to kiss this thing goodbye:  RAM: disk.  Discuss.

I'll take the defense... Hard drives are so fast nowadays you don't need it. Vista can make use of flash drives for RAM.
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Re: PC still playing Amiga catchup
« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2009, 02:09:32 PM »
Re: RAM/RAD disk

A user could get confused and not back up a file to the hard drive. It's better to let the OS do this. Windows can pick the best files to put in RAM itself.
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Re: PC still playing Amiga catchup
« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2009, 02:26:21 PM »
I get a feeling is designed around manipulated big files. e.g. a spreadsheet or a powerpoint presentation. Also it would optimised (not the best choice of words) for larger hard drives.
It's only us (ex)Amigans that notice it's poor performance on small files, include mp3/mp4 sized files. (Yes I know EIDE drives on the Amiga were slow, I was lucky enough to have SCSI II on my A2000)
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Re: PC still playing Amiga catchup
« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2009, 02:48:47 PM »
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Re: PC still playing Amiga catchup
« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2009, 06:45:55 PM »
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CD32 vs SNES:

Q: How big was the SNES marketing in the USA?
In Australia the C64 and the A500 were the most popular games machine until Playstation came along.


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In May, Nintendo's Wii console sold 289,500 units; Microsoft sold 175,000 Xbox 360 consoles. Sony's PlayStation 3 trailed behind with 131,000 units, and actually sold 117,000 PlayStation 2 consoles. Kotick said that because the Wii and Xbox 360 are selling so well, games generate a better return on invested capital than they do on the PlayStation 3. He also added that Sony's games division lost $597 million last year, and it may need to risk more losses if the PlayStation 3 is to evolve.


This is what I was talking about, the Playstation 2 is still selling under the inertia of its games. Not everyone wants the latest, shiniest, fastest.
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Re: PC still playing Amiga catchup
« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2009, 08:40:38 PM »
Deja Vu. I think amigaksi is a die hard strategist. He will hold onto his bad play until you a) Flinch b) Make a mistake.
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Re: PC still playing Amiga catchup
« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2009, 09:26:13 PM »
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Because you live in a world of illusion where bloated applications and inexact OSes rule and overrun by spyware/viruses and require gigabytes of data to keep your OSes functioning.

So use Linux. When people cotton on to the fact that they don't have to pay for it (I can't underestimate the Sadomasochistic nature of ppl), the games and apps will come pouring in. It's no wonder M$ is so desperate to get a foothold on the internet, they know the OS war is lost. In this day and age any 2 bit hack can put together an operating system. The future lies in services.
Anything else?
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Re: PC still playing Amiga catchup
« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2009, 09:27:44 PM »
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Tut, what's wrong with good old ProTracker on a 512K A500? The timing is perfect and has no latency bullcrap like you get with your tragically inferior generic PC rubbish. Macbook Pro indeed :rolleyes:

You can have my Emu10k DSP when you pry it out of my cold dead hand. nuf said.
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Re: PC still playing Amiga catchup
« Reply #57 on: June 21, 2009, 11:14:13 PM »
Dodgy M$ timer:

This is an experiment for those of you with good internal clocks. Play your favourite House/Dance track on Windows Media Player and watch the progression bar. To me, it doesn't appear to keep the beat.
Let me know.
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Re: PC still playing Amiga catchup
« Reply #58 on: June 21, 2009, 11:23:46 PM »
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What do you mean, compromised? ;)


That thing is scary... I just had a flashback, and thought it was '88 again.
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Re: PC still playing Amiga catchup
« Reply #59 on: June 22, 2009, 09:06:02 AM »
The final curtain:

If Amiga was still alive today it would indistinguishable from a PC. There hardware would have changed/adapted to keep costs down. It would be an X86-64 system. The OS would have to compete against a no doubt more advanced M$ Windows. Amiga OS itself would probably be heavily bloated to cover all the different tasks expected of it. Windows is your Amiga brother from another mother.
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