ELBOX New Spider device

[platon42]

Well, I certainly wouldn't like to see Chris get screwed. That would be most unfair.

... over and over again... seems to be a letter 'E' problem.

[platon42]

Poseidon is open source. There are no licensing requirements anymore.

AROS Poseidon != Poseidon for classic Amiga 68k.

[platon42]

Poseidon 4.4 works fine on my A1200T with AmigaOS 3.9

Try a mouse/keyboard behind a USB 2.0 hub. If this works, I'd like to see a PsdDevlister output.

[platon42]

We have banks and politicians to do that, no need for us to join in.

I'm a bit shocked to see some of the comments here to be honest. It's all well and good giving Elbox a hard time (and no, I am not in any way defending them), but surely with the wealth of coding skills among A.org members someone here could write a generic driver themselves rather than saying it's what Elbox "should" have done.

The source code of pciusb.device used on MorphOS and AROS can be got hold of from the AROS repository. My guess is that with minor modifications it could be adapted to work on classic PCI adapters. I have no idea about the state of the ArakAttack drivers on current versions of Poseidon. Maybe Geit has interest to get these up and running again. Maybe he should be bribed instead?

[platon42]

I think the biggest barrier to that is doing anything that might hurt Chris who has done nothing but good for the community as far as I am aware.

He only gets paid when people license Poseidon and a driver that doesn't feed anything back to him is kind of a slap in the face.

I also assume that he probably has a driver already and that if he was OK with the community doing it, then he would just release his instead.

I never was attempting to make a living on Amiga Software and gladly, in the past years it was less than 2% of my overall income... But yes, there were slaps in the face from people I would never had expected it.

[platon42]

@Platon42

Logitech keyboard and mouse works fine in the USB 2.0 hub, here is the device list:

http://www.amigakit.com/images/poseidon4.4-devices.jpg

Thanks for testing. However, that's not the bit of information I was interested in.

"If this works, I'd like to see a PsdDevlister output. "

You know, the shell tool thingy.

[platon42]

@Chris Hodges,

Since you are online and reading this thread, what are your opinions on the possibility of getting a wireless USB network adapter to work with AmigaOS3.x, or MorphOS2.x?

Neil Cafferkey has improved the Prism2 driver to include WPA support recently and I am almost desperate to get some kind of wireless networking running on any of my MorphOS2.x machines.

Neil has adapted his driver to work over USB on Poseidon for AROS. He recently asked for the Poseidon Classic/MorphOS SDK to try to port it there. Feel free to bribe him, he deserves it for his great work and it might help go get things done more quickly.

[platon42]

Chris,

Here is the PSDDevLister Shell output:

http://www.amigakit.com/images/psddevlister.txt

Interesting. The Spider seems to be reporting even highspeed devices as full speed to Poseidon, somehow emulating the stuff necessary to provide split transactions to downport devices. Either that or you forgot to add the EHCI unit?

PS: Thanks for the CDs! Much appreciated.

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so execuse me if i now say, that i have an impression the whole campaign was an attempt at damaging elbox publc image in exchange for how they treated chris.

No, I don't excuse that.

[platon42]

Ok, so much for "bygones" Chris. How about modifying your USB device for OpenPCI which Elbox doesn't like and sticking them with a bunch of nearly worthless Spider cards they can't sell. I thought it was worth a try anyway .

Hmmm... why is it so hard to understand what I've written. I don't excuse the impression of wawa, and why should I, because IMHO it is very far from the truth.

There are easier solutions to your suggestion.