So PowerPC is dead you say?

[bbond007]

it won't change the fact that nobody will ever be building a viable desktop motherboard usable by OS4 ever again! This is why it's **DEAD** for all purposes of interest to Amiga users!

That is a bold statement.

Lets see, from the time of the commodore demise, we have seen the AmigaOne, Pesesos, a bunch of SAMS, and now finally the X1000. (I never bought any of them, because they cost associated with them in my opinion is just too much money for the luxury of running OS4.X... but that's not the point...)

So, you are seriously saying the x1000 is the LAST OS4 compatible PPC motherboard that will ever be produced? I did not think the x1000 was ever going to be produced, but here it is, all 3000 dollars of it

On a completely different front, we the complete recreation of the Amiga chipset in the fpgarcade and the 68060 expansion board is in prototype stage from my understanding.

Are you saying that they (the people behind the fpgarcade) will NEVER make an expansion board that has a PPC processor in addition to or in place of the 68060? It would then be a PPC motherboard running OS4 classic, right?

How about this. If a new OS4 compatible motherboard is produced, and assuming you have two working kidneys at that time, why not make a commitment to donate one (to somebody on a waiting list) in honor of Jay Miner?

Sounds like you have nothing to worry about...

[bbond007]

You mean my $99 Efika is an unviable failure?

if its the same Efika i resold for $1, then yeah, i do kind of think it was a failure...

[bbond007]

It's just a little bit too big for my living room, I'll pass on this new PPC technology and happily continue use my Intel Core2Duo

http://www.characterblog.com/assets/58914-ibm-watson.jpg

Admit it, you asked but the wife would not allow it, right?

[bbond007]

While I find it unusual to see myself agreeing with tmhg I can only assume he means commercially viable, which for the moment appears to be true. Price, performance and most other properties make it not an option in anything other than homebrew/hobbyist circles where rational decisions arent important. If anything Id have to say the ppc systems youve mentioned support that idea rather than negate it.

ok, lets look at this closely...

"nobody will ever be building a viable desktop motherboard usable by OS4 ever again!"

from that statement, we infer the following:

as some point, somebody (ACube, A-Eon , not really clear.) did make a viable desktop usable by OS4, otherwise you would not include "ever again"

whoever made this motherboard clearly learned their lesson and they won't do it again.

nobody else will try (without failing). Ever! EVER!! EVER!!! EVER!!!! AGAIN!!! (evil laugh)

If you mean that they collective they have NEVER produced a viable OS4 motherboard and probably won't do so in the future, I might be inclined to agree with that, but its not what was said

[bbond007]

No, see, the trick is that you just keep redefining "viable" to mean "something other than what's actually been accomplished." As long as you keep moving the goalposts, the other guys can't score...

1. Capable of living, developing, or germinating under favorable conditions.
2. Capable of living outside the uterus. Used of a fetus or newborn.
3. Capable of success or continuing effectiveness; practicable:

so lets go with #3, definitely not #2 (if you are wanting to discuss something involving an x1000 and a uterus, that is your business, leave me out of that...)

they made x number of boards and sold them all and there is chatter about doing it again. I'm not sure how that does not qualify under #3 which says nothing about making boatloads of money.

if making money is part of the definition, then i guess the Red Cross and Credit unions are not viable...

[bbond007]

Well, it doesn't qualify because takemehomegrandma says it doesn't qualify! Obviously!

Obviously

but even if it was dead its still not dead.

Look at MIPS. I thought that was dead a long time ago but now they are making a MIPS tablet.

http://www.androidcentral.com/mips-tablet-promises-7-inches-ice-cream-sandwich-99

I had a prototype MIPS machine made by Olivetti, it ran Windows 2000 if i remember right. It was one of those ARC bios things that were a huge flop. I only used it as a SQL server but was faster than a x86 machine with 2x the clock-speed. I ruined the kboard port using a cheap KVM.