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Re: News of Free 060 Like Apollo Core License
« on: November 12, 2017, 07:50:11 PM »
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No matter what they do with the Apollo core, it isn't going to outperform a PPC, but it could be a very useful replacement for the 68K.


At least as an FPGA.

And in time, the PPC will almost certainly end up as a replacement candidate as well.
 

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Re: News of Free 060 Like Apollo Core License
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2017, 02:14:12 AM »
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I am 100% sure that no solution we come with on our own will even come close to a modern X64 CPU though.


In many respects, Apollo extends the life of the Amiga while the PPC merely prolongs its death.

I'm assuming MorphOS is your NG OS of choice. Do we know how far off it is from x64?
 

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Re: News of Free 060 Like Apollo Core License
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2017, 02:20:29 AM »
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I think we need more diversity in Amiga environment, that will help a LOT.


I may have missed the obvious sarcasm.

How would increased diversity help? Having multiple half-baked OS options has been a disaster for this market.
 

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Re: News of Free 060 Like Apollo Core License
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2017, 02:41:45 AM »
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What is most important/problematic: Waiting for under powered new PPC HW or waiting for AmigaOS that is widely available?


It's pretty obvious that what makes the most sense has never been the guiding force behind the Amiga in the Amino era.

It's mind boggling to me that transitioning away from 68k became an exercise in tightly-coupling the OS with yet another CPU suffering from accelerated decrepitude.

Fifteen years ago we knew that going platform agnostic was the way to go - even if that meant favouring the PPC.

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I suspect the sheer work of making it x86 based would that many years, so not really realistic, espesially given aeon and acube has sunk alot into PPC.


There is a compelling case for rewriting the OS rather than porting it and maintaining backward compatibility through emulation. See also: Apple.

The laughable thing about all of this is that 30 years ago a small group pumped out the first few generations of the software in far less time than it has taken to move the needle forward in the next 25. We're talking about transitioning or replacing something that came out decades ago, with a small footprint and limited complexity.