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Re: AmigaOS petition update
« on: July 19, 2002, 10:36:23 PM »
I still think this petition is a waste of time.  What's the point?  Amiga Inc. are protecting themselves and the consumer against dodgy companies producing dodgy products with the Amiga name, it's as simple as that.

If a company wants to use the Amiga brand (owned by Amiga Inc.), they have to adhere to the terms, and that's fact, and the way it should be.


And I still ain't signing   :-P
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Re: AmigaOS petition update
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2002, 11:09:26 PM »
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Ehm no crispy this ain't about making 'amiga' branded mobos and not paying amiga inc. its royalties. That's a completely diff. matter.


Your correct, it's not.  It's about making sure that the hardware is up to spec and is up to the job, it's about making sure there is a quality product that works, and if there is a problem it can be supported, it's about stopping pirated copies of the OS being run.

The last point being quite important, it's fine for Linux/Unix and other 'free' OSs, but I don't think Amiga Inc. could survive a lot of piracy of the OS.

It's all about protecting interests, which seeing as the patents etc. are theirs they have every right to do.

Nothing is stopping any other company getting and license distributing the OS with their hardware.
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Re: AmigaOS petition update
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2002, 11:16:30 PM »
@Seehund

Actually I have bothered to read the petition and FAQ, and I still think there is now point in signing.

Every copy of AmigaOS needs to count, every time a pirated copy is run it damages the platforms future.

There is nothing to stop a dongled version of the OS (USB) becoming available later on so users can run on unlicensed hardware if they want to, but if a company wants to sell the OS with their board, then they are going to need a license as they are actively putting the combo together.

What happens when the OS doesn't run on an uncertified bit of hardware, your average Joe will say, "This OS is crap, it doesn't even run on the board I bought it with."
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Re: AmigaOS petition update
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2002, 11:36:57 PM »
@HeUnique

This is exactly what I have been saying, Amiga Inc. would end up in a support nightmare, and gain a bad reputation from it.

I really do think this is a good choice, and will benefit both the company and the end users.
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Re: AmigaOS petition update
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2002, 11:42:14 PM »
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The OS4-version that will be available seperatly will ONLY run on the
old Phase5-card, and thats what the whole petition is about.


Well technically that's not entirely true.  It could also run on the Shark if they they pulled their finger out and sent Hyperion some hardware to work with.  Same goes for Pegasos too.
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Re: AmigaOS petition update
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2002, 12:31:39 AM »
@Kronos

This is from the latest Exec. Update, direct quote including typo:

"With regards to OS 4.0, you may purchase this product separately from the AmigaOne, and it can be loaded and used on other Amiga PPC products and systems and are certified for OS 4.0"

So I think that's that  then.   :-P

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Oops, not quite.  They clarify at the end of it too:

AmigaOS 4.0 will run on the AmigaOne and other Amiga PPC certified products...     :-P
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Re: AmigaOS petition update
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2002, 01:27:24 AM »
@Seehund

Read it again

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...and other Amiga PPC certified products...


Yes currently only Eyetech have a license, and well done to them, but nobody is stopping any company from submitting hardware for evaluation, are they?
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Re: AmigaOS petition update
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2002, 01:55:05 AM »
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Getting a little out of hand, let's not get personal.


Yes, sorry about that, was considering to remove that part in hindsight anyway.

I don't normally get annoyed, but I am really wound up by people ignoring the facts.
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