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Re: Amiga Inc answers your questions (updated)
« on: September 19, 2006, 04:24:25 AM »
So, Amiga of Washington sold everything to iTech and closed it's doors .  Then iTech became KMOS, or sold it to KMOS, who then became Amiga.  With the same personnel in every company, or at least most of them.  Delaware Amiga ended up with all the IP and supposedly paid money for it.  Washington Amiga was abandoned along with its debts.

So, Mr. McEwen, if there was no deception, and this isn't a shell game, then, who will pay Amiga (Washington's) bills then?  You?  Delaware Amiga?  

It seems to me like Amiga sold its' IP to another company with some of the same higher up individuals who then re-named it Amiga.  Viola!  No debt!  And Amiga's IP!  Where's the money from this sale?  I bet that's where Garry Hare fit in-the unrelated entity who could buy Amiga then sell it again to a newly incorporated entity of the original personnel, in a new state.

Were there no deception here, and if you and Amiga were as stand-up as you would have us believe, then I'd be getting paid every month on the debt you owe, and I'd instead be writing a lovely, congratulatory letter on how well Amiga are doing.  You know that I would be, if this were the case.

Maybe I should point the SEC to this thread.  Maybe they'd be interested in this obvious scheme to cleanse the Amiga name of the debts it ran up, or maybe in this post-Enron era this isn't illegal anymore.  I don't know.

Still a bunch of marketing speak, or as my late father would have called it, 'b*******.'
 

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Re: Amiga Inc answers your questions
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2006, 05:08:05 PM »
Poster: pierre  Posted: 2006/9/19 8:29:41

Guys, HUGE NEWS!
I was doing some research on the net and I found out that there is already OS10! This must be a shock to amiga inc, but a small california company by the name of apple computer REALEASED OSX ( thats OS10!!)

http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/index.html

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

Brilliant!!

OS 10, or 'OS X' as the 'Mac geeks' like to call it, is pretty mind blowing in a lot of ways.  It is stable, secure, and efficient, as seen here rockin' a G3-450/Radeon 7000 where it will happily capture video thru the firewire port all day long.  It's even got lots of drivers! Schweeet!  Also Amiga-like, it seems to get faster with each new OS release-and these releases seem to happen with STUNNING regularity-it just keeps gettin' better and BETTER!!

OK, fanboy mode off ;-)

But seriously, I posted last night in reply to this chain of marketroid drivel, and Wayne moderated it in about five minutes.  Was it because I said a naughty word at the end?  Or was it because I called attention to the fact that McEwen and friends created a shell company, sold all AI's assets to it, then created another company in Delaware, sold the shell company's assets to it, then closed down the previous companies and, viola'!  No debt!!  And all the principles of the 'new' Amiga are the same as those of the 'old' Amiga!  I think it's called FRAUD, but I'm having my attorney check on that :-D

My late father, who co-incidentally died the same month as Bill's daughter *and yes I've personally offered my condolences to Bill about that, it eclipses this whole circus by far* would have called that 'horse puckey'.  

Wayne, thank you for moderating out my last post about this soo quickly, wouldn't want anyone here to be exposed to any naughty words or negativity about Amiga, Incorporated.

It's a good thing they're on top of guarding their IP by shutting down your little Amiga.org shirt operation on Cafepress.  You could have made fifty bucks without them getting their cut! :lol: What were you thinking?!
 

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Re: Petro, India, and $75000
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2006, 05:29:50 PM »
What happened is that Bill didn't do his due diligence well enough before he bought into Amiga.  Petro had a 'sweetheart deal' with the Germans and in fact was contractually prevented from being fired by Amiga-they couldn't get rid of him.  Petro was a very smart guy.  He also was the exclusive recipient of OS 3.9 revenues, not Amiga, and this was also unknown to Bill when he signed on, and he found out later to his dismay :-(

Petro didn't like American Amiga companies much (can you blame him?) so he pretty much did what he could to stick it to them.  See the 060 deal, where he subsidized Phase5, selling them 060 CPUs for two hundred bucks less per chip than American companies, such as DKB, could get them.  Suddenly, Phase5 060 boards were much cheaper than the Wildfire!  Ask any American Amiga retailer, of which I was briefly one, and they'll tell you about how Petro sold European companies A1200s for literally hundreds less per unit than American companies could get them-sometimes American vendors would buy them from Euro vendors as it was still cheaper than getting them direct.  Thanks, Petro!

At least you could get Petro drunk and he'd give you Amiga stuff like tie clips, lighters, etc. :-)  Petro was more fun to party with..

Anyway, yes, Petro did kinda stick it to Amiga and it was a bad deal for them.  Sales of Amiga hardware were subsidizing things like paychecks. :-(  I don't know if Bill really could have known all this when he signed on, as in, it might have been very difficult for him to find it all out, and Petro took major advantage of that fact.
 

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Re: Its moderation if no one can see it, censorship if you will..
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2006, 06:30:51 AM »
"His post still exists, but no one can see it' That's called moderation Wayne. My post was moderated. Censored, if you will.

Wayne, I have not, until pretty much yesterday, been offered any concrete numbers, stock options or anything else. Garry Hare told my attorney in April 2003 that we'd be paid with money by the end of the month. Then, nothing. For three more years. Is there any ambiguity here? There was NO OFFER MADE.

Then there was some talk about Bill paying his share over time, which I was down with, but then of course he couldn't do it, legal reasons, blah blah blah, not his fault, and so on. Again, I was happy to accept that cash offer but it didn't happen either. Maybe it really wasn't Bill's fault he couldn't come through.

A few months later his attorney was talking about settling us out for like ten grand. Uhh, no. Also, nothing in writing.

Yesterday, I got an email with a very legitimate sounding offer from Bill. This is the first real, positive note in this whole thing, pretty much ever. It will be 'for real' when it's faxed to my attorney and my collections agency with a cover letter from his/Amiga's legal firm.

I think Bill wants to get past this, I know I do.  After this I'm gonna keep quiet, I hope my next post will be like 'Hey, Amiga paid me!  YAAAYYYY!!!'

This is good progress, and I'm actually happy with it so far. But, this is the farthest things have ever gone in terms of Amiga settling up, and so far it is an email only. I wish Bill would have responded to my email from last week, before this thread came out.  Bygones..