I think this whole discussion is pointless considering that every OS EVER have been pirated by many many people. If you get a computer and a new OS comes out that you need to run programs and you can't afford to but it and the program what do you do. Not to mentino I would bed theres a ton of us that found one of our legit disks went bad and we downloaded a copy. While that isn't illeage you were glad to find it. There is no money in the OS anymore. Now the kickstarts theres some money in that as people that really care will keep buying them as they return to there roots.