www.anubis-os.org finally open

[brianb]

While Amiga OS at the time was impressive, a lot of people almost protect it with a type of religious zealously. Face it Apple, Linux, Microsoft, etc. have improved and surpassed.  (Some may argue they have peaked, as they  struggle for new useful features.)

I never understood AROS, it was a cool project but then I started thinking - why?!   Why spend so much time to "emulate" something decades old.

It would be interesting to see a modern OS combined with Amiga philosophies.  And as sacrilegious as that may sound to some, I personally think it would be good for the community.

That's the optimistic side of me, the pessimistic side is scoffing and I'm not repartitioning my hard drive just yet.

[brianb]

mongo wrote:

bloodline wrote:

But OS4/MOS/AROS suffer from the limitations of AmigaOS... Writing new powerful software for them is problematic... Anubis hopes to rid the Amiga world of the original system limitations, at the expense of backwards compatibility...

So, their goal is to write an operating system that will run nothing? Can't I just turn my computer off to accomplish the same thing?

Or do they really believe that the original system limitations are the only things stopping people from writing new powerful software?

That is precisely what he is saying...  How do you port or build new software on API's and concepts decades old.  Why don't they port new browsers to Windows 3.1, MacOS 7, etc.  Because it's not worth it!  

I'm not bashing Amiga OS, I really like my Amiga's and it shows with the ridiculous prices i have paid for this old hardware.  But I don't understand how some people act like Amiga OS comes from the future, and everyone else is still playing catch up.  I can only assume it's cause they have never written a line of source code.

[brianb]

Argo wrote:
So this will be able to run mozilla, open office, pidgin, etc. right off. We'll have an instant base of Linux software to work off of, right?

No.

But who knows they haven't mentioned much of the details.  If they roll their own GUI on top of Linux then that's a negative.

But you would in theory have a ton of development tools available right off the bat, and a large resource of drivers for hardware.

[brianb]

sim085 wrote:

brianb wrote:
everyone else is still playing catch up. I can only assume it's cause they have never written a line of source code

Why is it so hard to write code for an Workbench/AmigaOS? Can't for example a Java Runtime Environment library be developed for Amiga basedet OS and therefore get the ability to run any Java application?

Well one problem I personally found, it's hard to even compile apps on the Amiga hardware.  I had to resort to coding in Linux and cross compiling.

As for Java, it has a high overhead and requires a decent CPU.  Amiga's appear to be fast by using some "fancy footwork."  The CPU is offloading a lot of I/O to custom support chips.  The main CPU on most models is usually pretty slow, but the Amiga did amazing things with the use of these custom support chips.

So while there have been JVM attempts they have failed or were way too slow to be useful on the Amiga.  As far as I know there hasn't been a successful JIT (Just in time) compiler attempted.   A JVM w/ JIT compiler would be much faster, but requires a lot of heavy lifting by the CPU.