Rougue er all

[DiskDoctor]

I know you we're around, my reply was more a history summary for relative new comer Tension.

And the answer still goes back to 'where they felt most comfortable after the divisions'.  AW.org and Amigans became the default area for OS4 dev talk. Also I'm sure it's probably just a matter of available spare time. Why spend valuable time double-posting across sites, when they know they can post once and then we can all visit there. I don't think it's because they beleive were unfriendly to OS4 here.

Plaz

That's true.  Each site has its key selling points.  And as long as no tremendous Amiga news appears, all these worlds will live their own way.  With many common features I know, but the point to arrange some major shift in userbase by gathering them in one place over common topics is impossible to obtain.

Instead of that I was thinking of making some meta-Amiga portal that does NOTHING except aggregating news.  I mean to utilize usage of proper forums' RSS mechanisms (eventually proposing the webmasters to polish the API).  It wouldn't even have to base on accounts/registration/personalization, a simple rss-formatted messaging with automated redirection to the respective portal would do the job.

That's something I really wish to have since I'm registered here, on awnet and mozone too.

BTW it's "Rogue et al."

[DiskDoctor]

A bit like amigann?

Well first look shows I meant something similar but after several seconds, AVG discovered trojan executing on this very site (MSIE8) so I'll check it again under Linux.

Actually as you can see all those news tree structure here (like hardware, hardware/classic, oses, other oses etc), it is enough to add a top "portal" level, preserving similar or identical frontend (like aorg, aw etc).

These news site you showed is rather manually gathering selected news, plus references (I saw it for five seconds).  What I meant is an unmanned portal - automatical news/forum topic extraction.

[DiskDoctor]

@DiskDoctor

ANN.lu V2.0? I miss that one. Big problem however for any news feed today is the lack of news.

Plaz

Actually I meant two things:

1) news feed (not too many of'em are there though)

2) new forums posts feed <-- this one would do the job!

[DiskDoctor]

I'm not possitive but I think that site just tried to load some malware on my windows box. Some thing call "secure service" attemped to load. Google shows the site as clean though, so I'm not sure where that just came from. My host of 4 different scanners/cleaners show I'm clear ATM.

Plaz

Same here, it (MSIE8+AVGFree+Win7) locked the site for a while and moved some cr*p to a vault.  The site managed to launch Adobe Reader though.  Anyway I made another visit and first look is just news and links.  I largely mean't NEW FORUM POSTS on any amiga site.  Any Amiga site (wwmaster) plugs in (by providing the proper feed or adjusting API if no new forum feed is avaliable) and then bang, you've got the aggregator.

Instead of checking several sides all the time (several to some, only one for others), you just check all-in-one-place and then redirect yourself to the portal with some conversation you find interesting.

As far as I know it's just a matter of collecting feeds and defining them as a multiple source for some chosen cms.  As I stated above, nice tree-like structure would be crucial, the original portal but also scope like hardware/software etc.

One more remark - if I myself was able to utilize such feature, I would for sure check and read EAB or some other Amiga portals in my locale.  Now I don't mainly because I spend some significant amount of my spare time on Amiga sites already.  Less time = more portals, at least to me.

[DiskDoctor]

The website is infected with pharming attacks: As soon as you browse the site the malicious code will attempt to take over your system by using multitudes of different methods, including infected swf and pdf documents abusing vulnerabilities in Flash player and Adobe Acrobat.

The malicious files are hosted in chinese (.cn) domains.

It is quite likely that amigann is innocent victim here aswell, and the site has been hacked. I'll investigate further soon. Meanwhile, I am urging caution when browsing the site. Even better, avoid the site altogether.

update1:

As far as I can tell the malware comes from malicious google ads. Suspicious URLs look like:

Code: [Select]


http://****mail.org/licky/etChunksFrom.swf
http://****anag.cn/rf/fromFactLooks.swf
http://****ci.cn/redirect/include/spl.php?stat=Linux|Mozilla%205.0|FI|Mozilla


Man, this is ill.

How in the hell could Google, Inc. help in delivering malicious content to the users??  Do they have a disclaimer in their ad argreement that they aren't responsible for the content?  Is this LEGALLY correct?

You know G Inc is some sort of a virgin in an IT world.  They made cool search, cool video storage (by buying it), coll ajax mail, cool cellphones, browser, but unlike Microsoft or Apple, no one ever sued them yet.  

Maybe it is high time someone did then?

After reading this, I would be first person todo so.

[DiskDoctor]

Google isn't, directly.

The ads are such that they have either time or IP address (or something else) triggering the extra content. At the time of the ad purchase or when google looks at it, it appears perfectly legit. Only after the trigger fires the malware is activated. I've seen this trick being used quite a lot lately. Many high profile sites have been hit.

There's very little google can do to fight against such attacks.

I don't know what that would accomplish really.

Someone's legal responsitivity for someone else's loss.

You know my type.  Help in malware distribution is a crime I guess, both here, in US, name it.

Technical limitations MUST NOT drive some action's legal justification.  You do something wrong and you cannot fix it, LEAVE IT OR TAKE RESPONSITIVITY.

[DiskDoctor]

So, I guess this means that if someone hacks your computer and uses it to distribute malware, you should be held accountable for all damages?

IMHO google is equally a victim here.

It depends.  If you conciously left your notebook without any password in some public place, then YOU.

Google should fix their security procedures; limit technologies, rise prices and store&check all served content etc. IMAO.

[DiskDoctor]

@Piru

OK but this is off topic.  I'll just leave the matter and have discussed with someone else.

Actually my temper here comes from the fact that this October I start PG IP Law studies So I kindda like those issues :lol: