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Re: (RFD) Amiga.org's future
« on: April 29, 2009, 08:34:33 PM »
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recidivist wrote:
It is a shame these forced upgrades are shutting out the classics.


Maybe it's about time for plan B (of mine)?

I posted this as an idea say in January.

Maybe the solution is (that would be a solution) to create a proxy server, filtering all classic UAs and smoothing new Xoops content (I mean classic html with strict tags and attributes).

This seems pretty simple, any xslt would do the job.

What do you think?
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Re: (RFD) Amiga.org's future
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2009, 08:56:08 PM »
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Wayne wrote:

To that end, I've spent the last several weeks evaluating available software and have ended up leaning towards a software package called Drupal. (I'm open to any others)


Please consider CMSes that render i.e. for mobile phones.

Unfortunately neither WAP/WML, WAP1.2 nor WAP2/xhtml profiles match classic profiles, that's for sure.  But when you can define / use many DTD/Schemas, we're all home.

EDIT* check out these:

http://drupal.org/project/mobile_tools
http://www.mobiledrupal.com/
http://drupal.org/project/hellomobile
http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/
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Re: (RFD) Amiga.org's future
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2009, 09:33:04 PM »
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EAB has a 'mobile' version that I access from my Viewty phone, and would probably work on an Amiga. (Although it is mainly just the forums)


amigaworld has its version, too.  I think xhtml mobile sites and Amiga browsers are not necessarily the same thing (as long as xhtml is actually bundled with CSS).
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Re: (RFD) Amiga.org's future
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2009, 09:35:45 PM »
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Wayne wrote:
Ya know, the whole "mobile war chant" while potentially valid, is kinda getting old


:-( ???  Please clarify.
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Re: (RFD) Amiga.org's future
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2009, 10:40:18 PM »
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Wayne wrote:
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Wayne wrote:
Ya know, the whole "mobile war chant" while potentially valid, is kinda getting old


:-( ???  Please clarify.

Do I *really* need to?


You mean down for mobile?  Or you just simple feel kindda bored?
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Re: (RFD) Amiga.org's future
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2009, 03:46:29 PM »
@ Wayne

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You mean down for mobile?  Or you just simple feel kindda bored?


I mean, -- with all intended respect -- it's getting kinda old to hear every other post on the subject of redoing Amiga.org to be:

"mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile.".

Yes.  We know.  You want a mobile site.  I get it.  Enough already.  

PLEASE -- Let's see what we can do about saving the site itself before we concentrate solely on a feature that all of 5 people might, or might not use please?

Wayne


You misunderstood.

This topic is about web system's transition.  Nothing more.  By mentioning the m-word,  I entirely meant mobile rendering for classic, not mobile rendering for mobile.  Just as means to achieve classic compliance.

As I posted in Any webpage on ANY amiga browser thread already, I think mobile rendering is a possible out-of-the-box workaround to guarantee classic support after your planned transition.

Maybe I wrote somewhere I wished there was mobile.aorg site, but hey, I'm reading/posting on mobile sometimes and it feels great already!  I want NO change thereafter (since a guy helped me out on it with my HTC phone)  I do not state mobile aorg version is needed anymore.  Especially on this very thread.

All I wanted to quote in my previous posts is that mobile CMS infrastructure provides a way to isolate and serve classic browsers properly.

My personal opinion is that new aorg site should indeed, support classics, for sake of preservation.  But as I said, no one wants your time wasted on it.

Whatever way it is, mobile rendering, smoothing proxy or any other (including classic abandonment), it is you who decides here.  You wanted opinion, you got my opinion, that's all.
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Re: (RFD) Amiga.org's future
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2009, 06:14:09 PM »
@ Wayne

Just for curiosity...

You're saying abandoning historical data is an option.

Say knowing that are you being backuping the current e.g. posting data anyhow into some future-accessible version? :-) Like this one particularly?

No irony here, just an idea...
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