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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« on: May 25, 2012, 04:02:36 PM »
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What, no Natami support?


I think a mainboard made with UtltimatePPC and Natami as the chipset woud be awesome! It would also be the closest to a real PPC Amiga. :-)
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2012, 04:19:13 PM »
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What is the point of the 040 then? Why not include a JIT in rom?.


For one thing the card would still need to boot. If it goes in the CPU slot then there needs to be a real 68K on there or at least some soft 68K that can activate itself on bootup and execute the AmigaOS reset routine from ROM.

That being said you could also say why not just make a cheap x86 based accelerator? Amithlon provided a fast way to emulate AmigaOS on 68K and for Amiga programs to be compiled as native x86. So much so that some people wanted OS4 PPC to be dumped in favor of Amitlhon becoming the official OS4. Aside from the x86 OS4 Amiga announced it didn't make sense to me wanting to replace an OS with an emulated version of the same OS and claim it as the next version!

So in theory you could use a soft 68K on x86 as well. Provided it was cheap because of the CPU. With that speed endianness becomes a low issue.
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2012, 03:33:46 AM »
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Right now the only reason the phase 5 boards are desirable is that there is software that you cannot run using any other way. WinUAE with PPC support would make a huge dent on the market. An Amiga PPC board that allows you to run existing ppc software ( not necessarily using existing powerup/warpup binaries ) would destroy it..


I don't think so. AmigaOS4 can use a warpUP wrapper that would be compaitible with most clean code . So existing PPC software can work. And that hasn't killed the Classic PowerPC market. As well as running MOS and OS4.

But, what would be destroyed here? A Phase5 board? So what, amazing there is a new replacement

I don't know if it's out of respect or just not bothering to put an extsting PPC emulator in WinUAE because it's harder than it looks but (most likely) but I had hoiped at least that PPC UAE would have included support for Classic PowerPC emulation using the native CPU. IT would have given the PPC Amiga platforms some edge over the PC version of UAE, With the shocking lack of any decent GUI in the UAEs we've had making them so un-Amiga like they need somethinng to stand out!
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