FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card

[curtis]

Well, that pretty much sums it up.  I'm also including a MultiFaceCard3 in the auction.

Now the bad news, they're both untested so sold AS-IS.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110501054307

Thanks,

Curtis

[curtis]

Okay folks, someone asked the same things y'all are asking.

Here's my reply:
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Like I said, both units were plugged into the Amiga 2000 when I got it. I turned on the computer and it booted. There was no screen asking if I wanted to use the accelerator or the stock 68000. It just booted up normal. I DO NOT have the driver/installer software so cannot test it out any further.

As far as the MultiFaceCard3, again, I DO NOT have driver/installer disks. How do you suggest I test it?

And before you ask, no, I don't have CrossDOS to download the drivers/installers and move it over to the Amiga.

I DO NOT HAVE ANY IDEA IF THESE ARE DEAD OR NOT! CLEAR ENOUGH???
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I didn't even know the accelerator was installed until I opened it up!

If you want to flame, and bitch and piss and moan, go ahead.  I used to be a big Amiga fan, but there are some many damned jackasses like you that have ruined the community.

[curtis]

Don't take offense to this, but in your auction you state this came with an amiga 2000 you got on ebay. How then, can you not know if it works?
 
I just don't understand people who know something does not work but still insist on posting it somewhere and implying it may work.
 
You also mention about the serial card "I am in desperate need of the slot it is occupying". Which means you still have the computer required to test both parts.
 
Why would you not simply test both parts before trying to sell them? Could it be you know full well that they are both dead as a doornail?
 
You and sellers like you is what makes it really tough to put together a good classic system. You have what you need to test these parts...Test them FIRST and THEN post them for sale. Oh wait, if you did that you may have to throw parts that don't work in the trash instead of taking someone's money for them knowing they are dead.
 
Steven

Check my feedback.  I stand by my reputation.  How about you?

I don't seem to be twisting you arm to bid on them.

[curtis]

AS-IS means AS-IS.  May work perfectly, maybe not.  I DO NOT KNOW!

Pisses me off big time when people do this.  I now take "As is" to mean "its broken"

[curtis]

Cut the guy a break, he got a 2k off ebay and found it it had an accel in it and he doesn't have any clue how to use it and doesn't want it. I've bought a1ks of ebay and found accels in them and had a hell of a time figuring out how to get them to work. I don't see anything particularly malicious about this listing. AS-IS, treat it as possibly broken, don't spend money on it you don't mind loosing.

Thank You!

If I wanted the item, I would bend over backwards trying to figure out how to get it to work.  Since I have absolutely NO interest in either of these, why should I spend the time?

I still say, I'm not twisting anyone's arm to bid on these.  I'm simply trying to pass on some gear that may or MAY NOT work to someone who is interested in it.

I could have simply tossed them in the trash as was suggested.  Then another CSA Mega Midget Racer that MIGHT have worked would've been lost.

[curtis]

Am I missing something here?  The Accelerator has been tested and it works, as per the "Clearly inexperienced" OP.  He said he turned the A2000 on and it worked:



The 68030 CPU card does not need drivers.  The RAM might need a driver, if it is not already "autoconfig" capable.  The CPU automatically configs itself and takes over the 68000 and is a 68030 on every Amiga I have ever seen and used (I have have them all).  

Even a 68040/68060 turbo card will report the system as having a 68040 CPU with no driver or OS loaded!  (SysInfo 3.4x)

(If you run SysInfo on a CLI without loading WB/drivers it will report what CPU is currently installed and autoconfiged)

Maybe instead of whining about him not testing, etc. let him know he already did???!  LOL

When I first got the A2000, I plugged it in and turned it on.  Dual floppy system, so inserted 2.04 WB floppy in drive.  Unit booted normally.  No cpu selector screen.  I had an A2000 many years ago that would pop up asking which cpu I wanted to use.  Not this one.

It wasn't until I opened the machine up that I discovered the MMR board installed.  Amiga Hardware Database shows an installer disk so I presumed this needs to be installed for the '030 to be recognized.  If this is not the case, the unit could very well be dead.

I also discovered an Oktagon hard drive controller with 4Mb of RAM inside.  No drive!  Memory is recognized which is nice.  However, again, no drivers for the SCSI side of the world.  Since I'm replacing this with a Buddha card, does anyone want the Oktagon?  $20 and shipping and it's yours.  Memory works, hard drive controller portion is untested.

[curtis]

As a long time MMR owner, one quick question and answer solves this mystery. Did the MMR have a 68K plugged in when the system booted?

If yes, then it's possible the card is bad and the system booted from the piggybacked 68K. Bid accordingly.

If no, then the card is definitely good as the system could not have booted. The additional software does things like map the expansion ram, move kickstart from rom to ram and turn on cpu features like mmu and has nothing to do with booting.

@LoadWB

That about covers it for me as well.

Plaz

Yes, the computer had the 68000 chip installed onto the MMR and booted.

[curtis]

Okay, I'm as stunned as anyone here.  I honestly did not expect $164.68.  I was HOPING for $20.

Now.  Here's what I've offered the buyer. IF this does not work, I'm going to give him a 50% refund.  Why 50%?  Simple,  I figure the zip RAM chips will work and if so, 4Mb of zip RAM is well worth $80.  If it turns out the zip RAM chips are bad, I'll deal with that.

Don't know if the winner is here or not, but I have asked him to let me know as soon as he gets the package in and tests it out.  I will let everyone here know.  

I feel these are very fair terms.  Of course, I know there are still some people who will feel I'm screwing the winner if the board turns out to be bad, but I've learned there are always whiners out there.

Again, I will have to trust the winning bidder to tell me the truth.  No other recourse there.

So, let the second firestorm begin!

[curtis]

Good points all the way around!  I will take that under advisement.

An offer of a refund is an offer of a refund but, personally, I'd go with the full refund upon return (minus shipping) if the item is defective. That way a) the buyer can't shaft you as they need to return the item and b) you aren't shafting the buyer. The shipping cost is simply the risk the buyer takes.

I've done that with a few items and all have worked so the refund wasn't needed but it's a cleaner process. $80 for zip RAM is expensive if he has no use for it outside the MMR.

[curtis]

The buyer could also just cut the card in half and send back half to the seller...

Yeah, hadn't thought of that!

If it doesn't work, I'll have the winner send it back and give him a full refund.

[curtis]

Just a quick update regarding this item.

I heard back from the winning bidder.  Seems the MMR itself was good and the cpu was recognized, but the memory card was not!  Doesn't make for much of an accelaration like that!

I offered his choice of either half back and he keep the item or a full refund if he would return it to me.  He elected for the partial refund.

This sort of makes sense to me since if he can find someone who has the opposite he can score a memory board and end up with a good unit.

I know there will be some out there who say he's lying to me and the item actually works, but you know, I really don't care.  I technically got the thing free so either way, I came out ahead and I described the item as best I could.  The winning bidder went in with eyes open and came out somewhat ahead.

In my opinion, both of us came out ahead.

Curtis