WHDLoad Installation Problem

[sim085]

Hi,

I am installing WHDLoad. I had already done this in the past but I thought of trying this again. I am installing WHDLoad from WinUAE at the moment.

The problem is this; When I set the processor to type 68000 WHDLoad fails to install. However if I set the processor to type 68020 (or higher) I can managed to get WHDLoad install. After installation I can set the processor type back to 68000 and games work just find (example: lemmings).

Does this mean that on real amiga hardware WHDLoad would need a 68020 processor to be installed?

Regards,
Sim085

[sim085]

Can you quote error message ?

Here is the error I get when processor is set to 68000:

Installer
Program failed (error #80000003)
Wait for disk activity to finish

If I set processor to 68020 (or higher) I do not get this error!

[sim085]

Which kickstart rom image are you using?

Kickstart 3.1 but if you want I can test with Kickstart 2.1 as well (I do not have others however).

[sim085]

You have wrong version of Installer (compiled for 68020).
Get this one:
 
http://aminet.net/util/misc/Installer-43_3.lha

Thank you for that. I downloaded my installer (WHDLoad_usr.lha) from WHDLoad website, that is here: http://www.whdload.de/. I did not know there where different versions for different processors.

Could this mean that even though when I changed the processor back to 68000 lemmings works fine, I could find games that actually do not?

[sim085]

Some WHDLOAD installs are compiled to run at 020 as minimum

Hi, I think I just found such a game! I tried to install Colonization WHDLoad version. When I try to start the game I get an error that this program needs at least a 68020 processor.

I do have the original version however installed on the real amiga hardware which only has a 68000 processor. Does this mean that if I want to use the WHDLoad version then I'll have to recompile it?

[sim085]

I may try to do that. Not because I need it (I have the original disks which work fine on the 68000). It is more because in my opinion this game worked perfect under a 68000 processor. However maybe it needed a more powerfull processer when working under WHDLoad.

However isn't one of the goals of WHDLoad to make games work the same on all the different processors and kickstart versions?

[sim085]

I do really admire your determination, even if it's bound to fade abrupty when you actually realize what WHDLOAD slave writing is all about.

There is no shame in trying and failing (which is what will most probable happen). Just another question. To install the new installer I need to just replace the files inside my Workbench directory?

[sim085]

I might been a bit over the line.
Sorry for that.

Not at all I know this stuff is very hard. I really admire the people that actually managed to first understand and then make all this stuff work
 

Extracting file "Installer" from archive into "C" drawer would be enough.

Thank you for that, you can see what a big newb I am from the questions I ask but I keep notes, and therefore I learn!

[sim085]

Extracting file "Installer" from archive into "C" drawer would be enough.

I did this, however it still gives me the same error. Also I noticed that in C I have another file called install. However I went on the Install icon and went to Tools > Information and here it says that the Default Tool is Installer.

However as I said I still have the same problem!

[sim085]

Hi,

sorry to bring this up again, but cannot manage to understand how to make the installer of WHDLoad use the installer tool I moved in C:

Also when I moved the installer tool there was no previous installer tool in C: there was only an install tool. However the Default Tool for the WHDLoad installer is equal to "Installer" but do not know what this means!

[sim085]

Installer 43.3 (30.4.96)

Yes I do get this result from shell. However when I double click on the install icon of WHDLoad I still get the same error as before:

Installer
Program failed (error #80000003)
Wait for disk activity to finish.

Do I need to start the installer of WHDLoad from shell?

[sim085]

Not sure why else you are having all this trouble installing a simple program.

I think the problem is related with the WHDLoad installer (which fails to install under a 68000 processor but works fine on a 68020 processor).

I say this because the sample script works fine when I put the installer under Sys:C which means that this is installer works fine (with out the installer under Sys:C this would give an error)

I think I need to modify something in the WHDLoad installer! Is this possible? Maybe it is not using the new installer I just placed in Sys:C

[sim085]

I think that because you are using Winuae, it'll more likely be a Winuae config issue, try 68000 with an older kickstart image and see what happens..

I can not do that because I am using Workbench 3.1. Doesn't workbench 3.1 need at least Kickstart 3.1?

[sim085]

I was also thinking the following ...

I did not have any Installer tool before putting the downloaded one under Sys:C (I mentioned this in some post about).

So how come the Installer tool refered to by the WHDLoad install script has worked fine under the 68020 processor? shouldn't have it also failed because there was no Installer tool under Sys:C?

Not that my Workbench 3.1 is a fresh installation and did not havbe the installer tool under Sys:C. Is this normal? If yes, then where is the default installer tool of Workbench 3.1 located?

[sim085]

Just copy WHDload to your C folder manually.

Ok, I managed to make the installer work. There was another 'Installer' tool in the directory of WHDLoad and it seems the latter used this one rather then the one in System:C! I removed the installer tool inside the WHDLoad and its installer started using the one in System:C.

SYS:Utilities is another common place for Installer.

Thanks, it seems that workbench finds the installer tool regardlessly if it is in System:C or System:Utilities! How does Workbench work in this regard? What does workbench do to find a tool such as installer?