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Install Workbench on CF card problems
« on: June 15, 2009, 11:25:07 AM »
... this looks like a never ending story ...

Anyway, I managed to partition the drive and I get two disks on desktop labeled "UDH0:NDOS" and "UDH1:NDOS". I selected each one of them and selected format option from toolbar and named them "System" and "Work" respectively. So far so good.

Then I start the installation. However here (not always at the same time) I get an error as follows; "System has checksum error on disk block 998683". If I do retry nothing happens if I do cancel then installation stops.

The fact is that ones I managed to install up to the disk four of workbench and another time only till disk one of workbench. In other words this seem to happen randomly.

Is this related to what MozzerFan is saying here:
http://amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41762&p=456699

That is that the SanDisk Ultra II 2GB CF card (which I am using) suffers from this type of problem?

or else I am doing something wrong?

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Re: Install Workbench on CF card problems
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2009, 11:31:42 AM »
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Does sound like a problem with either that particular card or the model in particaulr.

Can you try a different one ?


I will try to get a new one and try on that. I think MozzerFan had told me that Toshiba ones work fine on the A500+ but for now maybe I try to get a 1GB CF card.

I hope MozzerFan can confirm that these are the same errors that he was getting when trying this out.
 

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Re: Install Workbench on CF card problems
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2009, 12:25:40 PM »
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most of which contain posts suggesting the correct rate.


Thank you for the suggestion. Doing so I found out how to change the MaxTransfer and Mask values from the HDToolBox.

However several posters give several values for these two fields. Does anyone know what these values should be?
 

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Re: Install Workbench on CF card problems
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 12:41:14 PM »
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any values recommended by Tomas should be safe ;)
Thanks for the advice, I already found some of his suggestions :)
 

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Re: Install Workbench on CF card problems
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2009, 01:02:35 PM »
@MozzerFan
From what you are saying it seems you had the problem when connecting the CF card to the GVP hard drive, or you also had the problems in WinUAE?
 

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Re: Install Workbench on CF card problems
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2009, 01:12:56 PM »
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In WinUAE it worked ok.
As soon as I connected it to the GVP hd8+ I got problems with the Utra II card.


So there is shit still to come ...

I managed to install Workbench 3.1 through WinUAE by changing the MaxTransfer value to 0x1fe00, while leaving the Mask value as it is.

However I still have to connect everything to the GVP hard drive.

... to be continued ...

Anyways, just out of curiosity; what is the Mask value? I can understand the MaxTransfer but not the Mask.
 

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Re: Install Workbench on CF card problems
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2009, 01:25:32 PM »
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Yeah, I use 0x1FE00 too.
According to my manual, the MASK value should be 0xFFFFFFFE for the gvp hd8+ (so it can use every type of memory for DMA).

Thank you for that information :) By any chance, is it possible to change the MaxTransfer and Mask values after the drive is partitioned and Workbench installed?
 
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I hope you have more luck than me when you install the card in your gvp hd.

I do not think i'll have but really thank you. I appreciate all the help you gave me :)
 

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Re: Install Workbench on CF card problems
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2009, 06:16:53 PM »
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Yes, you can change it after partitioning and installing WB.
 
Good luck.


From where can I change the MaxTransfer and Mask values after workbench is installed?
 

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Re: Install Workbench on CF card problems
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2009, 06:35:22 PM »
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Open your Workbench partition then the Tools drawer. Run HDToolBox and change the values from in there.


When I change these values it does not allow me to "Save Changes to Drive" and when I enter again to change these two values I get the original 0xfffffe and 0xffffff again. I am afraid these are not being saved.

I have set the hardrive to allow both read/write operations.
 

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Re: Install Workbench on CF card problems
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2009, 07:42:49 PM »
Something else,

At the moment when I connect the CF card to the GVP HD8+ I first get a black screen for a long time and then the insert disk screen. Could this be related with the SCSI_DEVICE_NAME or the MASK value of the partitions?
 

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Re: Install Workbench on CF card problems
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2009, 08:24:26 AM »
Quote from: MozzerFan;511408
Does it recognize the CF card then?


I formatted the CF card again and I plugged it in the GVP. I then Insert workbench install disk and change the SCSI_DEVICE_NAME to 'gvpscsi.device'.

However when I open HDToolBox I have all the buttons disabled again. I guess this means that the GVP is not recognising the CF card (or that there is anything connected to it).

Does the MASK value effect this? (However there is not way to change the MASK value of a formatted CF card if HDToolBox does not even want to see it connected right!?)
 

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Re: Install Workbench on CF card problems
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2009, 09:05:34 AM »
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Doublecheck if you connected things the right way. Maybe you forgot to connect the powercables to your SCSI-IDE adapter (I know it's a long shot, but you never know).


Everything should be connected right. The IDE -> CF adapter card has a right light turning on. This would not turn on unless properly connected with the SCSI -> IDE card.
 
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Does your HD8+ have it's own PSU, or did you perform the PSU mod, so it is powered by the same PSU that powers the A500? If so, maybe the PSU of the A500 doesn't provide enough juice to power both the A500 and the GVP.


No the GVP has its own power supply. When I try to autoboot I can see the GVP trying to access the drive without any luck.

I was wondering if maybe it is a Jumper setting on the SCSI -> IDE card.
 

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Re: Install Workbench on CF card problems
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2009, 09:21:22 AM »
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Do you have a manual of the SCSI-IDE adapter?


No it did not arrive with a manual. I am trying to contact the seller to see if he has any knowledge about how the Jumper settings should be set!
 
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If you have a spare IDE harddisk, you can try to connect it to the SCSI-IDE, and see if that works.


Yes I was going to try and test each part of hardware by it's own. Like that I'll know if each peace of hardware works fine or not.
 

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Re: Install Workbench on CF card problems
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2009, 12:01:28 PM »
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Edit: Never mind. I found an old post of yours.


Sorry I did not send before ... we had power cut.
 

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Re: Install Workbench on CF card problems
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2009, 12:21:37 PM »
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I have found a PDF with the jumper settings of your SCS-IDE.
 
You can find it here:
http://www.redsretro.com/manuals/IDSC21_jumpers.pdf


Yes that is the card I bought, thank you for finding that. I read the document but not really understanding much (sorry). Do I need to follow the instructions for Flash ROM (2nd page), and does that mean that I need only one jumper settings (because in the first page is says that HD has 5 jumper settings and if I remember correctly on the card card I have 5 pins).