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Workbench ... more questions (flickering)
« on: April 17, 2009, 08:49:14 AM »
Hi,

Yesterday I managed to install magic workbench on WinUAE. It looked good, however I remembered my brother had installed it once but did not use it because of the flickering.

Back then we had an old Amstrad Monitor for the A500+ and lately I bought the original 1084S D1 monitor. I therefore tried to use Magic Workbench again on the original hardware and found out that changing the monitor did not solve the problem!

Is there a way how to solve flickering problem on an A500+? Also would the Classic Workbench 64K version also result in flickering?

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Re: Workbench ... more questions (flickering)
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2009, 10:47:19 AM »
I found this but that is too overly complicated for my liking and experience :(
 

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Re: Workbench ... more questions (flickering)
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2009, 01:29:23 PM »
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anakirob wrote:
You could run the MagicTV patch.


Does this only apply for the AGA chipset?
 

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Re: Workbench ... more questions (flickering)
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2009, 01:53:43 PM »
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See if your TV suports NTSC as well. That runs at 60fps rather than PAL 50, would reduce flicker a little bit.
Also, wasn't there a hacked euro36 screen mode that worked on a normal TV and reduced flicker? might have just been on WB 3.0 though...


I am building my new setup based on WB 3.1. However I do not wish to connect my A500+ to a TV set but rather to my 1084S monitor!
 

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Re: Workbench ... more questions (flickering)
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2009, 03:05:54 PM »
I think it was on English Amiga Board; I read that there was a version of MagicWB that could run in a lower resolution so to avoid flickering! Unfortunately the guy did not remember the link from where to download this. Does this really exist. Tried searching on Aminet but could not find anything like it.
 

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Re: Workbench ... more questions (flickering)
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2009, 12:33:00 PM »
I FOUND IT :)

I did another search on the English Amiga Board and found the post I had previously found;

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=42149&highlight=Magic+Workbench

Here, someone named Bloodwych said that the small icons set is named SmallBench and it can be downloaded from here:

http://aminet.net/search?query=small+bench

I will give it a go when at home :)
 

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Re: Workbench ... more questions (flickering)
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2009, 06:38:23 PM »
How do I install these icons, because the package does not seem to have an installer. I read the read me and it says to use some InstallIcon program. However should I put these icons in some location on Workbench (example C:). I never installed icons before and do not know how best to do this.
 

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Re: Workbench ... more questions (flickering)
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2009, 10:31:37 AM »
Does ClassWB also require Hi-RES?
 

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Re: Workbench ... more questions (flickering)
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2009, 12:34:30 PM »
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There's also the simple-yet-expensive route: the upcoming Indivision ECS plus a VGA monitor.


Where can I find information on this?
 

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Re: Workbench ... more questions (flickering)
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2009, 02:53:06 PM »
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Where can I find information on this?


http://www.vesalia.de/e_indivisionecs.htm


Will this require a hardware hack like this one;
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~albert/Dev/A2320/

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Re: Workbench ... more questions (flickering)
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2009, 03:22:27 PM »
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Of course not.

Indivision ECS, when finished and available, will install inside A500 case, directly into one IC socket (Denise), so no soldering or fiddling with adapters at all.



interesting .. are there any ideas when it will be ready?
 

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Re: Workbench ... more questions (flickering)
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2009, 11:42:39 PM »
Sorry to bring this up again. Posted on another thread where I was told the flicker fixer by Jens would still not solve my problems on a CRT monitor. Also someone mentioned something about a scan doubler?

Therefore I am coming to the opinion that if I want to keep my A500+ connected to my 1084S D1 monitor then I can say good bye to any Magic Workbench installation (because of Hi-Res flickering). Is this so? or ...
 

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Re: Workbench ... more questions (flickering)
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2009, 12:57:59 PM »
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Lockon_15 wrote:
Never mind, what matters is it won't solve your problem on your 1084S


Well my intention was never to use my A500+ with any monitor. For this reason I purchased the 1084S :)

For me using another monitor (which I already have) in order to use magic workbench would be nice and bad at the same time. What I want is the feeling of using my Amiga on the hardware of back then!

However so far I nearly have enough parts to build a second A500+ ;) maybe I maybe inclined to buy this scan doubler and flicker fixer for that :)

At this point I'll have to give up on anything 'magic' I guess! and stick to my workbench ... ...