Is this possible?

[sim085]

Hi,

Is it possible to connect a GVP A530 Turbo to the CPU socket rather then to the side of an A500+? I understand that some modifications would need to be made (or the development of some cable). But is it possible? This would make it possible to have a A570 connected as well

Regards,
Sim085

[sim085]

Thanks darksun9210,

I was just asking to see any possibilities ... some else on the 'is possible list' (if I may).

Is it possible to buy an 020 card and then change the processor to an 030 on the same card? (I pretty sure this is a 'no' answer).

Regards and Thanks,
Sim085

[sim085]

Thanks for the reply

I checked on amiga-hardware.com and the VXL030 does not seem to take a SCSI or IDE hard disk. I know the Viper can take an IDE hard disk. Is there any other accelerator card that can take SCSI or IDE?

Regarding the GVP; there is one for sale on eBay and I was considering whether to buy it or not .. at the moment it is more of a not.

Thanks again for the replies,
Sim085

[sim085]

Thanks alexh for your reply. I gave up on the Viper long time ago and the Derringer is usually very expensive as well.

Anyways; I have been reading about different accelerator cards on amiga-hardware.com and when I mentioned the Viper I did not mean to buy one but that it seems amiga-hardware.com says that the Viper has an IDE connector but it does not seem to say the same for any other accelerator card.

Does this mean that only the Viper had an IDE connector? Or I can find other 030 accelerator cards with 32Mb or 128Mb of RAM which can has an IDE connector? I only have an Amiga 500+.

Thanks again,
Sim085

[sim085]

aaaa... ok I think I understand (maybe, correct me if I am wrong).

So basically the IDE connector does not need to come with the accelerator card itself. I buy a 68kIDE board which would be connected in the CPU socket and then the accelerator card would be connected on top of the 68kIDE board!

Is this right? Does everything still fit in?

Thanks,
Sim085

I like the A570 because I think it would look cool

[sim085]

hmmm...

So considering the fact that Viper is impossible to get and that an accelerator card on top of a 68KIDE board would make my Amiga look funny ... then it is practically impossible to have IDE connector and accelerator card all inside an A500+? Or there are other alternatives?

Regards,
Sim085

[sim085]

Thanks for the reply

So if it is impossible to put a 68KIDE board and an accelerator card then I think it is also impossible to but a clock board (If I remember well this was to have USB support) and an accelerator card right? or?

Regards,
Sim085

[sim085]

alexh wrote:
To be honest the most cost effective upgrade for an A500+ is an A1200 ;-)

I know ... but I want to modify my A500+ out of affection and nostalgia

[sim085]

Ok ... back on the internal hard disk problem.

I had another thought (maybe I am entering in fantasy world now) ... Is there an IDE board which connects to the A500+ side slot?

If so; couldn't I solder some extra wiring with the side slot which would create a second side slot which I could place on top of the metal shield over the motherboard.

In other words I would have two devices (hard drive and cd drive) connected to the same side slot?

Regards,
Sim085

[sim085]

zipper wrote:

Lockon_15 wrote:
Yes, there are perhaps 10 different designs using sidecar IDE on A500...

I had a Rochard 800C controller (Mem+IDE/SCSI), Action Replay III on a T-piece splitter (Datel) and Supraturbo28 - made a longish extension to the side...

By T-piece splitter you mean something which is connected to your A500+ side expansion slot and provides two side expansion slots? If so from where did you get it?

alexh wrote:
I think you'd be mad to try and wire in two side car expansions :-)

Why potential conflicts? I checked a website which talking about an IDE60K board and in it the person had to solder two wires from the board to the side expansion board.

Therefore I thought; why not solder wires on the side expansion slot (on each teeth - I think that is what they are called). And then connect an IDE Board to these wires (obviously with some connectors). This would allow me to have a hard drive inside my A500+ without the problems that come with using an IDE60K board!!

Also the (main) side expansion slot would still be empty allowing me to fit some other device!

Regards,
Sim085

 

[sim085]

> you can get clips which clip to CIA and Gary chips

From where can I get such clips?

> What problems?

From what I understand (the problem is that) you cannot have a IDE68K board and an accelerator card on top of it since that would make it impossible to close the case.

> It is much more work than the two solders for IDE68k

Yes I am sure of that but mine was just a thought to see if it would work. I assume with the clips you mentioned things should be easier right?

At this moment all I want is to see if the concept is ok or not. If things work as I think they should, then I should be able to put the hard drive (only the board) inside the A500+ (maybe on top of the metal case). At the same time I would still have the side slot empty and I can connect another device there (hypothetically an A570).

Regards,
Sim085

[sim085]

Hi again,

So this weekend when at home I opened my A500+ and my GVP Hard drive and saw if this (the internal parts) could fit inside the A500+ over the metal case! It seems the answer is no.

I believe that if I find some IDE board and maybe some CF adapter then maybe I can fit the CF in there without a lot of problems. However that would put me out of the 8MB RAM that come with the GVP already!!

I also have some other questions;

Are these IDE board easy to find?
Why should I add clips to the Garry chip rather then directly to the side connector? What does the Garry chip actually do?

Thanks and Regards,
Sim085