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Re: www.anubis-os.org finally open
« on: September 06, 2009, 07:57:32 AM »
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Anubis won't go anywhere.  It's merely a re-implementation of an old idea called Amithlon.....They'd be better off supporting kernel and driver updates for Amithlon instead of trying to reinvent the Amithlon "wheel".


Ferrells,

Anubis will be *far* from a reimplementation of Amithlon. It will actually be possible for unmodified Amithlon to run under Anubis using the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel-based_Virtual_Machine

There have been far too many assumptions with regards to what Anubis is aiming for, and as the new project lead, I intend to clarify these misconceptions with anyone willing to ask civil questions which do not assume ridiculous things.
 

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Re: www.anubis-os.org finally open
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2009, 08:09:02 AM »
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Ok, I've been pondering ordering myself a Beagleboard, and if this will run on it, well, one more incentive to buy.

And what am I doing with a beagleboard?  That is for me to know and for you to find out.


Anubis will support ARM in some fashion from day one. As a beagleboard owner myself and the new Anubis project lead, you can expect Anubis support for this tiny, extremely-inexpensive platform.
 

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Re: www.anubis-os.org finally open
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2009, 08:21:14 AM »
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Since they are using OSX as the model, presumably, if they ever get to a release stage, they will be able to launch X11 from within Arix, just like you launch X11 from within OS X.

Similarly OS X has Carbon, which links back to the pre-OS X days and Cocoa, the NeXT framework that has just about buried Carbon.

So presumably Arix will contain a Carbon equivalent that will support old Amiga APIs and a Cocoa based on some new framework.  Now Apple had thousands of full time programmers to take on the task, Arix has a couple part time hobbyists, so we'll just have to wait and see wether they can deliver a champagne OS on a water budget...


Persia,

I'm not sure what you consider to be the "OS X model". Can you explain this? As for Carbon, OS X 10.6 is the first release to, practically speaking, drop support for Carbon. Carbon on 64-bit Intel machines has never functioned 100%, and in 10.6, Apple made the conscious decision to stop supporting the compatibility API they created nearly a decade ago.

As for Apple having thousands of programmers, once again, the open source methodology of using building blocks has proven itself in the real world, which means that we don't need a thousand programmers. We also have an immensely smaller focus than Apple does. Some of my friends work for Apple. I work down the street from them in Cupertino.  That said, Darwin has serious performance issues, and I'm by no means an Apple fanboy.

Anubis will embrace this building-block methodology when it's deemed most expeditious.
 

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Re: www.anubis-os.org finally open
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2009, 02:53:51 AM »
I find it highly amusing that the same half-dozen trolls are the only ones flexing their muscular, uninformed opinions in this thread :) If that isn't indicative of Trolling 101, you can kiss my ass and call me nancy. There will always be haters. It's a lot easier to hate than to sit down and attempt to constructively reason out how a forward-looking Amiga-inspired desktop environment might actually function.

For all those who say "it's vapor" like a broken record, I encourage you to go back and look at your own previous forum posts. An obvious pattern will immediately become apparent.

When an automaker designs a new car, they re-use technologies that do exist, augment others, and invent new ones where necessary. It's the basis for innovation, but many old-school Amiga zealots are happy to live in their deluded, ignorant pseudo-reality, where Hyperion and friends are going to kick ass and take names. Let's get real. We're trying to do this in large part for the enjoyment of it, and the debbie-downers of the world make it that much less enjoyable a prospect.