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Offline mdwh2

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Re: DVDRtools (DVD-R/DVD-RW) burning sofware ported to Amiga
« on: October 22, 2003, 01:14:27 AM »
"Always the Amiga Community.. always awarding and rewarding people who do the least work, and shunning those who are truly pushing the envelope."

It's not like there's a single person here. Different people have different opinions - some will give praise to any new utility, others seem to troll articles trying to put down any new software, when they could have simply skipped the article if it wasn't of interest to them. And you seem to be an example of the latter, right now..

No one claimed that this was some earth shattering revolutionary piece of news. But it's still news. You didn't even manage to provide examlpes of software which does what this does *now* - so if this is the only such piece of DVD software, then it certainly deserves to be news.

"Let's see what YOU lot are doing to push the envelope around here, instead of just posting onto forums and arguing about what a real Amiga is?"

I'm writing software, both professionally and in my spare time, instead of spending time on forums slagging off other people's software.
 

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Re: DVDRtools (DVD-R/DVD-RW) burning sofware ported to Amiga
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2003, 10:19:33 PM »
"We're worthy of some criticism. But some of it (of the calibre "you aren't Amiga so we dismiss everything you do as a tactic to con us") isn't justified at all."

No, but I don't see that your criticism here is justified either. You're making a perfect example of the sort of person you're arguing against!

Personally I get on with programming rather than browsing forums when I'm at work;) But your idea that small snippets of news about random free pieces of software somehow distracts from attention to your company is both strange and somewhat selfish. Amiga.org gives plenty of attention to Genesi, whether it's big or small. I mean, come on - looking right now, a massive 30% of new articles of amiga.org's front page are dedicated specifically to your company. Is this not enough?

If a company feels like it's not getting enough publicity, there are ways to try to rectify this. Your method seems most unprofessional.

"Why should we give him any credit for doing such a piss poor job, though, when he clearly had the time to sit down and resolve the issues he had, since he clearly spent a lot of time explaining it?"

Firstly, no one's asking you to credit him. But no one's asking you to troll articles that don't interest you either.

Secondly, if you're so concerned about the flaws in the software, have you told the author? One  thing that annoys me is when people seem to take the effort to talk about some bug or problem in software I've written - but they post about it to some random forum, rather than bothering to tell me.
 

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Re: DVDRtools (DVD-R/DVD-RW) burning sofware ported to Amiga
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2003, 04:15:07 AM »
I see what you're saying better now (although it's false to suggest that Pegasos gets only criticism) - but there are some very good reasons for the way things are like this:

- Things that are bigger or more successful tend to attract more criticism. Whether it's jealousy, or the fact that no one cares about little things, or that things that have more influence and power over the market place need to be criticise because it's harder to get away from them. Look at how much people slag off Windows.
- There doesn't seem to be any competition for this product. If there was, then someone might say "x does the job much better", and that would actually be a helpful contribution to the thread. MorphOS/Pegasos do have competitors, in the form of Amiga Inc (and other platforms in general).

Do you think John Carmack will be losing sleep over the fact that some will probably criticise Doom 3, where as little freeware games go uncriticised? And does someone who replies positively to news about such a game have no idea about what a "good thing" is, because someone else slagged off Doom 3?

"dvdrtools is hardly the best thing since sliced bread"

Who said it was?

"the port is rather slack at best anyway, so what's all the excitement about?"

Presumably people were excited about this being the first DVD burning software for the Amiga (if it is?) Of course it's less so exciting if it has flaws and isn't that good, but it's hardly surprising to see some mild excitement.

"you wouldn't know a good thing if it slapped you in the face anyway, just like the rest of the Amiga Collective."

I'd rather that you didn't make assumptions about me - feel free to provide a link where I have taken part in slagging off your company (usually anything I say about it has been positive). You otoh are fitting into the "slag off anything new that comes along" profile perfectly.

If you gave up this idea of an "Amiga Collective", you'd realise that it isn't strange to have two people holding views that would be contradictory if one person had both those views.

Why not go back to these anti-genesi threads and argue it out there, asking them why they didn't slag off this software? You seem to be intent on arguing against a point of view that no one here in this thread holds.