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Offline DyLucke

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Re: Some questions about the Minimig.
« on: July 01, 2008, 01:30:29 AM »
Actually can be designed a very capable mainboard
maintaining some Amiga standards to make this "new"
system a continuation from the Classical Amiga, and
add to this new platform enough pieces of "oldskool"
hardware to make it retro-compatible via some
kind of easy emulation. We can't just think about
running old programs, we need to move on, it's futile
to buy a new comp in order to run old software, when
you can still get some "originals" just go for a classic
second hand Amiga, or be a bit more ambitious...
Evolve or die. That's a rule.

That's what i think. That retro-policy made Amiga to
be stuck for a decade without 3D capabilities, same
machine formats, low clock rates and small memory amounts.
We lost the battle and we can't think on being in the
past if we want to survive.

Classic Amiga can't die, can be emulated properly if we
add key hardware to NEW and MODERN systems.

So if you only want to run old programs buy some
A500 or evolve and open your eyes to a new Amiga
standard that will still be able to run oldskool
via emulation.

Greetings
The only way for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
Edmund Burke.

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CD32!!!!
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Re: Some questions about the Minimig.
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2008, 08:43:25 AM »
Easy, get a Classic computer for our little pieces of art,
and get a new board that means improvement to use new
software and new capabilities.

What i said about adding "key hardware" to the new systems
afaik has not been implemented in any new Amiga computer.

But as you can know UAE does fairly good on PC's, just
figure what could be emulated if you add some custom
oldskool chips on a new Amiga computer. (Emulation would
be way easier, way efficient for only a bunch of $ more)
That's what i mean.

Actual Amiga manufacturers that are able to design a
"minimig" that is not an "improvement" by itself but
an old computer in a new shape, could add the
imprescindible hardware used on that minimig to our
new mainboards to add some "oldskool emulation mode",
with a really effective result.
But noone decided to do that.

As a resume, i would not buy a minimig, i would buy an
Efika or a Sam440ep instead a minimig, and keep at the same
time my old A1200 till the moment some of these platforms
reach the point of having an efficient backards emulation
using software or maybe using some part of hardware
either in future models.

Nope i was not a journalist at that time but i was
an Amiga user who expanded his 1200 as much as i was able,
and the result of every improvement effort Phase5 or other
great companies also was "New oudtated hardware".

Why? Our Viper accelerators could not compete with
PC's in performance due the loooooooooooow clock rate
of our A1200 and A4000 mainboards... 14mhz. And if
you were able and lucky enough and rich enough to
afford an A4000 with some 3D card like the
"awesome" "Cybervision 64 3D" you got a really
expensive sollution using an S3 Virge chip, while
PC's were using GPU's even ten times faster...
Even my Playstation was more efficient than that
and costed a fraction of what my Amiga costed.

That's what happens when new hardware gets stuck
by using a platform designed with standards
from 15 years ago, Commodore got stuck with
that retrocompatibility, so third party manufacturers
were not able to improve the system by themselves.

ACube should not lose its time on designing a minimig
but think about HOW to implement a decent emulation
and reduce costs on the NEW boards.

:-)

Greetings
The only way for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
Edmund Burke.

A1200 Blizzard 060/66 64MB FastRam + 40GB HDD + Subway USB.
A1200 Apollo   040/33 32MB FastRam + 40GB HDD.
CD32!!!!
A500 4MB + 2GB IDE-CF adapter.
Mac Mini G4 1,5ghz  waiting for MorphOS.
C64, C64C, C64G, C128... 1541U-II.
Atari STe... SatanDisk, Atari 130XE... SDNuxx