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Re: Adf to real amiga disk
« on: March 23, 2003, 11:29:07 AM »
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FES wrote:
I've read some threads here but i couldn't find a good solution. The problem is, i don't have workbench :(

> Damn ;)

I do have an external amiga floppy writer, maybe i could connect it to my pc and "convert" the adf files to a amiga disk using an emulator?

> Nope.

I just bought 3 amiga's yesterday so i'm a big amiga newbie hehe :)

P.S, i think i have kickstart 1.2 and i have a nulmodem cable.

> OK. So you'll need new ROMs its not that expensive, and then you can install a decent (recent) WB. like 3.1.

What Amigas did you get ?

Thanks in advance


> no PB
 

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Re: Adf to real amiga disk
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2003, 01:36:47 PM »
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FES wrote:
I just want to use it for those great old games :)

but can't i make my own workbench 1.2 disk (or is workbenc 1.2 useless for making an amiga disk of an adf file?) when i connect a commodore parallel floppy disk to my pc?


OK if you only need games, be just aware of that :

#=>The 500 uses the Old Chipset Set, witch only allows for execution of *old* games.

Not ALL Amiga games will run on your machines, typically not the latest. Bottomline : AGA & ECS NOT compatible.

There are some exeptions, I mean (quite) recent games, like Arcade Pool from team17, witch adapts itself to the host machine.

=> About the OS :

What you CAN run for now with your machines is the 1.2 WB, available anywhere.

Unfortunately the 3.1 ROM, witch amazingly are still available for the 500 (!) are quite expensive, but if you want to fully use those machines, try to buy one of those.

Where are you ? You need some help from a guy with the real Mc Coy here.

It's a chicken&egg stuff, the bottomline being
[color=990000]you can't possibly write Amiga floppies[/color][/b] let alone the OS bootdisks [color=990000]on a PC[/color][/b]

Don't get discouraged. SpeedBall2, Lemmings and BatteIsle are ahead !  :-P

pX

PS - I'm in Paris France, I can *send* you the floppies via snail-mail. On the other hand, I can dump the floppy to a
http://fdutils.linux.lu/disk-id.html file and send it to you ; you would then need some wizardry to write down every block to the FD exactly as they are laid on the AmigaFS track layout using "dd".
but that can be tedious 8-)  and is not even garanteed to work.  :-(

Those floppy stories bear a little magic. :-) Hell, I never managed to fully understand what's really going on with Amiga Floppy system. ;-)
 

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Re: Adf to real amiga disk
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2003, 02:22:08 PM »
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you would then need some wizardry to write down every block to the FD exactly as they are laid on the AmigaFS track layout using "dd".

No, this doesn't work with PC floppy controller. It's a HW issue.


Ow, OK. That was hypothetical anyway.

Grrr, just what gives that we can't overcome this HWare thing ? :shocked:  :ranting:  :pissed: I know the thing, the *veeery* low-speed spinning, the dedicated Mitsumis, but Hey, this is Amiga, such a critical issue should have been addressed :hammer: in years, like so many others in hard/hack on Aminet !