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Here it is in simple math
« on: March 01, 2005, 04:36:41 AM »
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But you need Real video

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Re: Here it is in simple math
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2005, 12:38:53 AM »
Yes. Sobering, isn't it.
 

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Re: Here it is in simple math
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2005, 06:13:24 AM »
Oh dear. No real video? Hmm. Well in short it's Prof Al Bartlett giving his talk on exponential growth. Wonder if I can find it in another format.

Or look here for a clue.
 

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Re: Here it is in simple math
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2005, 09:24:20 PM »
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mdma wrote:

The population "problem" is all the hundreds of kids per religious whacko family, and teenage pregnancy smackhead chav scumbags.

The world needs children born of intelligent creative people like you Cecilia.

This is a direct order. GO MAKE BABIES NOW!!!

For the good of your planet. :-D


Unfortunately I think you are correct. What we need is for the creative intelligent people to rise up and make war upon the unwashed mouth-breathing masses. First we must take away their nice middle class life so that they are less of a burden on resources. Then we must ruin any medical system that may support their unhealthy backsides. Then we must destroy any programs that will help them live longer once they can no longer work. Things like Social Security must go.

However, that plan is already owned by someone else. Looks like we'll have to use the back-up plan : outbreed them then flatten them through force of arms. Any volunteers for the first stage?
 

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Re: Here it is in simple math
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2005, 06:06:41 AM »
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cecilia wrote:
(past tense as I'm just too tired at this point to even consider kids).


Well, that counts you out of plan B. Perhaps there is still hope that bloodline's research shall light the way to generating a mighty army of socks.

And being socks they will be able to sneak up on the enemy and noone will hear them coming. .. I mean approaching.
 

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Re: Here it is in simple math
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2005, 06:10:32 AM »
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I'm not worried about overpopulation, the ceiling, which we'll someday hit, will solve it eventually. Plus, no matter how populated the planet gets, it can be corrected quickly.


It's the difference between leaping out of a high flying airplane with a bag of rocks or with a parachute. Either way you're gonna get to the ground.
 

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Re: Here it is in simple math
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2005, 07:12:29 PM »
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It's the difference between leaping out of a high flying airplane with a bag of rocks or with a parachute. Either way you're gonna get to the ground.


How is it different? The correction (death) rate is a constant. Unless you're trying to figure out a way to make people die faster, overpopulation will take the same actions and ammount of time to solve, regardless of the population, weather it's 1 or infinity, the cycle stops around 70 years.

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The diffenerce is in getting to 0 growth on our terms or on natures terms. Both jumpers always reach the ground but the one with the controlled descent has a better chance of survival.

There is a sustainable population level and then there is population that we can support on a short term basis. The further we overshoot the sustainable level the more precipitous will be the collapse.

That is, if we consume the resources at a non-sustainable rate now then the lack of resources is what will cause the deathrate to climb and population levels will fall to the level of the resource left which may be very small.

If we moderate the resource use now we will have more survivors when the crunch comes.

We can drive full bore at the wall or we can start braking now.