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Re: Amiga's place in the modern computing world - 00s
« Reply #14 from previous page: June 11, 2008, 07:12:54 PM »
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Recently on some Amiga forum sites (i remember it on Amigaworld.net, if I remeber it well) I read the testimoniances of people who used Voyager last version and they said that the feeling they had with Voyager it was better than any browser experience they had...

I could not testimony it by myself, because I do not own Voyager, so I can only report their comments...

Why I should not believe them?

(/seaching the internet to find these testimonies)



I used Amosaic when it came out - and it wasn't that great and that was around 1996. by that stage Netscape was a far better browser - I think that was around Netscapes prime, before it's downhill slide into bloatware.  I had used Netscape at work on a 486 since it came out around 1994 - thus I had great hopes for a Amosaic on my home machine (my Ami).  So - I used them both reguluarly within the same 24 hour period.

As for Voyager/Netscape - you can beleive whatever you choose to read.. I'm saying 'I used them both - side by side - and it simply ain't so'

That's my testimonial - so I don't NEED others when I've actually done it myself.

When had great hopes for Amithlon and tried every browser there was at the time - including the last versions of Voyager and Ibrowse.  So - I not only tried them, but tried them on the equivilent of an accelerated Amiga AND a graphics card.  I tried them alongside Netscape

And to tell the truth - even if it HAD suprassed Netscape, by that stage that was no great accomplishment anymore.

Now.. to say something is 'unsurpassed' is something different again - that is to say it is the best - now being the best experience can be a subjective thing, but no matter how I slice it - I can't see using the web with Voyager as unsurpassed... not by a long shot.

That's just the way it is - here in reality.

Seriously, this whole argument is like saying I can put a CD ROM on my Sega Megadrive and outperfom a Playstation 3.  It can't, it won't, and to tell the truth that doesn't bother me because if I wanted to use a playstation 3 I'd buy one.  The fact that it can't is part of it's charm and appeal.
 

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Re: Amiga's place in the modern computing world - 00s
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2008, 09:44:57 PM »
I think you need to re-read that second one.

It's saying that he THINKS it sucks while agreeing it lacks features and is not as good.

He 'prefers' to use ibrowse...


See above anyways - I've used them both side by side - I don't LIKE mozilla - I don't LIKE netscape (as I've said before it became a big bloated pile of pooh) - that being said, it is a better browser.

It does it's task better - it displays web pages better.

And that's all it really comes down to.  And as the web marches on and people use it more and more, as it adopts more and more features, ibrowse, voyager, etc. will fall further and further behind to the point (which I think we are at very close to, although others may disagree) to where the machine is no longer technically able to use the modern web productively.

The first is an interview with the head of DiscreetFX - it mentions very little about browsers other than he prefers Firefox over Internet explorer and that he uses Ibrowse on his Amiga.

In case you haven't followed this - DiscreetFX are supporting the Amizilla project - an amiga port of Mozilla (which has never happened) which is probably why it is brought up in the interview at all.

It doesn't say anything like what you've written.  If it does please show me - because that certainly isn't what I walked away from reading either of these 'testimonials'.


Sorry - but try again


If anyonere were saying 'Ibrowse/Voyager are better than Mosaic' - THAT would be a statement of truth... not the fantastic slam dunk folks some folks would rally behind... but it would be a statement of truth, and something you could prove...... and right now that would be something indeed.


Right now you're saying that product X I don't use on a computer I don't use is better than product Y that I don't use.

That's not really grounds for an objective argument anyways.