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Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« on: September 30, 2010, 03:16:25 PM »
I'm thinking about buying, but not right now.
Yet it is quite expensive, especially for Russia, with our small income.
Must be a way to buy just the motherboard - transfer large amounts of weight and rather expensive, difficult to pass the customs bureaucracy.

And all that is written "no," I want to say - you are enemies of amiga platform. Developers spent a lot of funds and time that would create a new, relatively competitive platform, and you can't spend some money once in 2-3 years to upgrade the computer on your favorite platform?
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Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2010, 03:22:58 PM »
I even say that it is not so much a question of buying a new motherboard, how to support the development amiga as platform altogether.
I believe that everyone who is connected with Amiga, must somehow try to help in its development.
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Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2010, 03:34:45 PM »
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Although the use of the word 'enemies' is probably misguided.

maybe it's not quite accurate translation. In Russia there are well-established expression "You're your own enemy," it means that a person does something that will be worse for himself.
Without the support and regular production, although not very productive motherboard - platform dies, it's stupid not to understand. Anyone who says "I'm amiga-fan, but I will not buy a new board" is contributing to that development stops at all.
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Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2010, 03:44:29 PM »
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No. Whichever way you look at it, it sure isn't competitive.

So, no less - is better than it was before.
Without small steps will not be a major step.
Each purchased board, an investment in the continued development of the platform that would go on to make faster and more interesting board.
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"some money". You're kidding right?

Аor me - it's very noticeable amount. I think I can spend money only in the spring.
On the other hand, if you look what Amiga motherboards, we were able to buy only once in 2-4 years, was really a new board. To do an upgrade every 3-4 years is not too often.
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Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2010, 03:46:23 PM »
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We're talking about the X1000 here, not the Amiga.

oh, okay, do not have this flaming about that Amiga, and what does not Amiga.
Not too much hardware in the world, to run amigaos.
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Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2010, 03:51:59 PM »
Quote from: Piru;582095
Create a product that is reasonably priced with great balance of features and people will buy it.

I understand that to create a product that is comparable in complexity to a modern motherboard, the cheaper it is impossible.
Why do you think otherwise?
There are examples of cheap motherboards that were released in small batches?
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Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2010, 04:25:39 PM »
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Which is kind of my point. That's why it is pure madness to try build new custom powerpc hardware. It will be hideously expensive, with little to no support and after couple of years once the manufacturer is gone there will be no way to get repairs or spare parts. It just doesn't make any sense.

Okay, but without the hardware -  platform is dead. What's your idea?
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Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2010, 04:38:22 PM »
Quote from: redrumloa;582113
Project Moana?

Moana support only PPC mac? No way, it's deadlock. No more PPC mac hardware.
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Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2010, 05:13:51 PM »
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PPC Mac will be around for much longer than X1000 ever can. PPC Mac will have spare parts and repairs available for much longer than X1000 ever can.
It's just raw numbers. Millions of PPC Macs were sold. Even in the most optimistic scenarios X1000 will never be able to break a few thousand.

Mac PPC is an old hardware and it does not develop, even if ppc ia a lot. If you go to the mac PPC now, what to do in 2-3 years? begin to develop new x1000 will be even harder.
Amigaos need new hardware, which would be developed, albeit slowly. Transition to a mac is good in the short term and very bad in the future.
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Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2010, 05:42:35 PM »
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Even if you forget all that the PC systems were even more expensive back in 1989. In 2011 you can get probably at least 4-8 better performing PCs with the price (depending on how DYI you'll go).

And why the PC has become so cheap now? Because it is a lot of buying, and many produce. If someone wants to have evolved Amiga - you need to regularly release new products and sell them. Do not get a jerk to release the "super-motherboard" and immediately become a champion. Should be published each year, buy an upgrade. Thereby increasing the turnover and developers, and the presence of the secondary market and the number of people using the Amiga.
It's long and hard way, but it's only one way for non-mainstream platform.
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