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Re: Legal threats from Harald Frank
« on: February 21, 2003, 04:26:22 AM »
> This is totally out of hand. I wish Bernie could
> take his code and start over with a new name
> for the project.

Your wish has been granted already. Umilator contains NO code by Harald Frank, and is a completely different product.
Funny that we're not allowed to speak the other products name, considering we're paying customers. Silliest thing I've ever heard.

> I feel bad for him that he signed
> contracts with these complete jerks

Yep, luckily Bernd was able to terminate the distribution, as everyone here is witness to, weather Harald and H&P  recognises it or not. It's archived on Usenet, on webarchive.org etc, and we all saw it happen.
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Re: Legal threats from Harald Frank
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2003, 04:38:32 AM »
> I concur with Wayne in this matter entirely. I find
> that such threats against Amiga.org are childish
> and uncalled for.

I want to be offended by the threat, but I just can't get over how STUPID the complaint is, it's hilarious! There isn't a lawyer in the world that wouldn't have his milk spraying out of his nose when Harald explains this complaint to him. Even an American lawyer :roflmao:
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Re: Legal threats from Harald Frank
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2003, 07:01:48 AM »
> Here's my offer to Harald Frank. Two dollars and a
> six pack of Guinness for the source code and ...

That's a generous offer, but the only source that appears in Umilator that's related to A*ith**n are already licensed under the GPL and are freely available to Bernd for use in Umilator. Harald would be off his nut to claim the Linux Kernel or the GPL modifications to it belong to him. I believe there's a certain longhair that would have something to say about that claim.

> licensing for your product called Amithlon.

The only parts I can think of that would need to be licensed are A) Haralds code, and B) the trademark.  The code has been disposed of and is no longer needed, so scratch A, and the trademark is disputable, but the trademark is not being used anyway, so that's moot as well.

> I want to donate whatever contributions were
> made to the Umilator sources

ie: none. None of Haralds code was used. Harald, AFAIK claims the "concept" of his code belongs to him. This is mooted as well, as Bernd, from the looks of the feature lists has not only rewritten the parts he needed, but implemented them in a different way, for example, the networking being handled by the linux kernel, the way the parallel ports are now implemented is also completely different. His so called "concept", as loose a case as it is, wasn't even used.

That leaves no technical or legal reason for Harald to cite, so he resorts to his last desparate tactic...

> so that product can continue in peace.

...Peace. Harald is going to publicaly and privately harass everyone who has anything to do with Umilator, a product he has no claims to, none at all. We've all seen the public displays, and most have heard rumors about the private displays.

It's harmless. The dog has no teeth. The dog has no legs to stand on.  All it can do is bark and slober.

I'm estatic that this project is finally moving forward, it (and Bernd) deserves to succeed.
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Re: Legal threats from Harald Frank
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2003, 07:37:32 AM »
> >The only parts I can think of that would need to
> > be licensed are A) Haralds code, and B) the
> > trademark.

> Are you kidding, what trademark? :) H&P never
> registered a trademark for Amithilon so, they don't
> own it. :P

like I said, it's disputable :P Although, the name isn't used anyway... Even giving HF every concievable benefit of the doubt, he still has no case.

What I'd like to know, is **WHAT** SPECIFICALLY in Umilator does Harald now claim is his? As best I understand it, there's nothing left! Not even the "concept" part was reused.

It's just so damn funny, I should be pissed for the crap HF has caused, and the delays, the disruptive mailinglist posts, etc, but it's just so damned ridiculous I cant help laughing at it all.
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