This weeks "poor taste" award goes to Yahoo

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http://store.yahoo.com/ppfastore/ihadabt.html

[edit] Lol! They removed it! There was a T-shirt there that said "I had an Abortion" sponsored by Yahoo and Planned Parenthood.

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cecilia wrote:
assuming it's true, why is this in poor taste?

Oh, I don't know, because the shoe fits?

IN POOR TASTE(P): Dictionary Entry and Meaning
WordNet Dictionary
 
    Definition:       [adj]  lacking aesthetic or social taste
 
    Synonyms:       barbaric, brassy, Brummagem, camp, campy, cheap, flash, flashy, garish, gaudy, gimcrack, indelicate, kitsch, loud, meretricious, off-color, off-colour, ostentatious, pretentious, tacky, tasteless, tatty, tawdry, trashy
 
    Antonyms:       in good taste(p), tasteful
 

Hell, I've had hemeroids before, but I wouldn't wear it on a T-shirt! :-P

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Geeze, first you guys tell me "Yea! Biking is fun! You should really consider taking this up as a hobby" and then you get me interested in it... I buy a bike costing a few grand... and only NOW do you tell me about these testicular risks!!!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

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cecilia wrote:
well, it's only obviously in poor taste for YOU.
i don't see anything wrong with people being proud of an intelligent decision.

Getting pregnant with a child that has to be terminated isn't an "intelligent decision", it's an "accident" and a way of dealing with it.

Pride? Geeze, you make it sound like it's a goal to be aimed for, let's get pregnant and get abortions. Hell, even in medically necessary cases where a baby must be terminated to save the life of a twin or even the mother I'd be highly surprised if someone described that decision with "Pride."

Anyway, I think it's in piss poor taste not from the standpoint of being against abortion, but for the simple fact that people walking around with shirts like that are slapping a crass and nasty message in the face of millions of people who've HAD abortions because they had no alternatives. I think you'll find that includes most women who've had them, as most reasonable people don't "aspire" to be put into that situation, they make that tough decision because they had no other choice available to them. Wearing a shirt like that is grinding salt right into that wound.

Hell, you'd think someone who's HAD an abortion would be the LEAST likely person to be insensitive to others in that situation.

I'm not one for political correctness either, but offending millions who've been forced into a dead end just to make a weak political point (which it doesn't even succeed in doing , as no reasonable person advocates abortion, just the "choice") is just poor taste.

it may not be something i'd wear, but that's because i'd rather have an AMIGA t-shirt.

 :lol:

By that time, all the unborn children will be of voting age!

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KennyR wrote:
@speel

And if we go to the other extreme and don't make people face up to the responsibility of their actions, we might as well give up contraception as being too hard and inconvient, and set up 5 minute abortion factories where women go in one end once a month and them and piles of dead but suspiciously human-looking meat come out the other.

Bad taste is mankind's natural response to taking things too far. Sometimes it doesn't work. Most of the time it does.

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My god! Man you have a way with words! :lol:

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cecilia wrote:

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
"Bad taste"
The pro-life movement has the lovely idea that there should be children crawling like worms over this whole planet, eating everything in it's way, and if there's nothing to eat anymore, they eat their weaker brothers or sisters.

actually, what these so-called "religious" "pro-life" folks do is that when some of the unaborted, unwanted kids grow up and become criminals, they just kill them legally with capital punishment.

I'm not sure I grok the concept of an "unaborted, unwanted" child. I know for a fact my presence was "unplanned" and in fact our first child was too, but, well, here we are...

But back to pride, if a child was truely "unwanted" and conceived due to contraception failure, I can understand a woman getting an abortion, but I can't understand where the "pride" comes into play. What's to celebrate about contraception failure and surgery? You'd might as well have "pride" that you'd gotten the clap for the same reasons, but somehow I doubt people will be buying those "I've got the Clap" T-shirts.

Abortion is not an "achievement." I understand that it's important for those in that position to have solidarity, but  celebrating an "unfortunate" situation in the faces of those actually in that situation is cruel. It ranks right up there with those people outside abortion clinics shouting "Babykiller!" to a crying teenage girl walking out after surgery... in fact, it's the same exact message, except instead of "Babykiller, how could you?" it's "Babykiller, way to go!" Is either one better?

KennyR was right on the money in his closure. labelling it as "good" or "evil" is equally wrong, and both labels shout "babykiller" at the mother in different contexts. The only middle ground available is "unfortunate", anything else is "babykiller!" spoken in contempt or celebration. The T-shirts chose celebration, and so are part of the "Babykiller!" camp.

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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Well, it seems that there's indeed no way between pride and shame for many.

Pride and shame are irrelevant unless you are talking about an achievement or goal. Abortion is an unfortunate situation, not an aspiration, and is kind of apples/oranges to the concept of pride and shame.

Would you be "proud" to find out you just got AIDS? What about "shame?" I wouldn't feel either, if I hadn't done anything wrong. It's simply unfortunate.

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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

KennyR wrote:
@speel

And if we go to the other extreme and don't make people face up to the responsibility of their actions, we might as well give up contraception as being too hard and inconvient, and set up 5 minute abortion factories where women go in one end once a month and them and piles of dead but suspiciously human-looking meat come out the other.

Maybe you do not know it yet, but the countries that have legalized abortion have the lowest abortion rates. And until 1996, when the Netherlands had for a long time abortion legalized, it had the lowest abortion rates of the entire world. (and it has still one of the lowest abortion rates)
So the image you're describing is in reality plain untrue.

It's legal because they don't have a problem with it obviously. To say they don't have a problem with it because it's legal doesn't make sense.

It's legal here too. We have more legal abortions than you do.

Anyways, looking at recent trends in the netherlands, it looks like your abortion rate has been doubling every year for the past 3 years.