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Re: OS4 moves to x86. What happens next?
« on: October 27, 2010, 04:59:43 PM »
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2: Time and money required to port applications.Without app's, an OS is worthless.

Most current OS4 have already been ported to x86, and even better: AROS. So no time nor money involved here...

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3: Oh hey there AROS! What functionality does os4 give that AROS doesn't ?

It's the same with Linux PowerPC, MacOS PowerPC,... What functionnality does OS4 give than these don't ?

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4: Most overlooked:
Hardware support.
AROS has been around for years and still supports a fairly limited range of hardware.

Well, it's fairly limited but still a lot less limited than current OS.

But going x86 isn't supposed to bring so much hardware choice. It's about to give access to cheap hardware. You could select for example a motherboard from ASUS, and only support this one.

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The assumption in these threads tends to be "we could run amiga OS on any PC and it'd be rad". And that would rad, but it won't be reality.

Of course not.

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5: User base.
Is there any actual user base in a world saturated with mature OS choices ?

Well, is there any actual user base when you produce 500 machines per year (and I'm optimistic)... I don't know what would happen if it was available on x86. What's sure is that hundreds of millions of machines are sold each year. That's certainly a lot more potential than anything produced in the Amiga "market"... 0.001% of this market would mean 2000 new Amiga users a year...

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Pessimistic ? Maybe

Optimistic ? Maybe :)

But we'll never know unless they decide to make the move... And as we would say in french... "qui ne tente rien n'arrive à rien" (Nothing ventured, nothing gained)

What's sure is that PowerPC is dead-end, unless you target some embbed market, which clearly isn't what Amiga users do.
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Re: OS4 moves to x86. What happens next?
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2010, 11:36:18 AM »
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Utter crap!

A1200 BPPC/200, BVision, PCMCIA Ethernet running an emulated 68k ASM driver, playing MPEG2 video over the network from a samba share.

Full frame rate, no skipping or tearing, smooth, audio is perfect and the machine is still as responsive and multitasks just as well as it is when not playing the video.

Troll much?

MPEG2 ?
Welcome to 2010, people now use MP4 and I doubt it runs on your machine... even with frameskiping and no sound.

I also doubt your machine can cope with DVD decoding (and I'm not even talking about bluray, which is standard...).

It's no crap. These machines are very limited...
 

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Re: OS4 moves to x86. What happens next?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2010, 12:00:11 PM »
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Again, without wanting to cause offence because it is a brilliant achievement that OS4 exists with such a strong vibrant community :). If OS4 went X86 and could run on standard hardware PC, isn't there a danger that folk would begin to see some of the more limited areas of OS4, and simply go for the easy option of dual booting something like Linux or Windows. OS4 on X86 might have the opposite effect with the platform decaying and seeing little more development due to the ease of access of alternatives? I am a romantic, but there wouldn't even be the magic with the interesting hardware, as the OS would be sitting on some dull, boring PC hardware - within a dull grey box :(

Don't you think 95% of the people here *already* own a PC or Mac ?

Being able to run OS4 on this machine would just mean they wouldn't have to spend so many cash to enjoy the very limited OS4 experience. So I would say on the contrary: it would bring more people to try it...

The people that spend xxx$ today to buy a custom slow machine to run OS4 will still spend ~100$ to use the OS on their PC...
 

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Re: OS4 moves to x86. What happens next?
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2010, 02:13:51 PM »
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Why on earth would anyone even want to play a Bluray on an A1200?

Thanks for calling me a geek. But someone still using in 2010 a 300Mhz-accelerated original 14/25Mhz Amiga from 1993 is more likely to be a geek than I am...

Sorry to disappoint you but the C64 isn't older than me, although lots of machines were built before I was born...

I like to see people doing things you couldn't expect to see with old machines too, including nice C64 demos, new OS for c64/amstrad cpc,... Yet, I fail to see the interest of the rather hungry OS4 with a Amiga+PowerPC today when compared with OS3.x + wup/pup.