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Re: Next step for Amiga(like)OS?
« on: July 16, 2008, 11:59:28 PM »
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Far behind? I think not. Comparing the MOS 2.0 and AOS 4.1 feature lists, I think that they're in a pretty similar state actually.

Quite true... And seeing you just need a simple (well.. "simple") wrapper to use the apps of one in the other one you can mesure how close both are... And especially how much ressources are being *wasted* reinventing the wheel.

Simply because everyone wanted to control and own his "baby"...

How many apps could we have if all ressources put in OS4 were put into MorphOS apps instead ? (and same for the other way around.. I don't want to enter into some pathetic "they are the legal ones", "this os is the only real one because xx"...)
 

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Re: Next step for Amiga(like)OS?
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2008, 11:12:40 PM »
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 There is no next step. AmigaOS is a dead end. People forget that AmigaOS was a series of compromises. By design it provided a lot of features present on the high end machines of the day by compromising on security and stability while being able to deliver on affordable hardware at the time. It made for a damn nice system during its reign.

The folks who wrote AmigaOS knew from the very beginning that it wouldn't carry on for decades. If Commodore hadn't gone tits up and became a dominant player in the computing world, AmigaOS today would be something completely different than the OS we all love and are familiar with and all those legacy apps would be running in sandboxes, well not really, we would have dropped them long ago just like the mac people don't give a damn about pre OSX apps.

We move forward by writing something better, not by hanging on to obsolete technology.

There was nothing OS wise that was particularly original or ground breaking on AmigaOS. Almost all of the ground breaking stuff was the hardware, which by todays standards is completely irrelevant.


I totally agree... Unfortunately all people that wanted to move forward left the Amiga "boat". When reading everyone talking here, the most important thing is to be able to run their 10 years (and older...) applications. Not to have a new, modern OS. So development is headed toward compatibility, and not innovation... And a lot of time is spent ensuring compatibility more than having new clean (and not compatible, but who cares ?) API...
 

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Re: Next step for Amiga(like)OS?
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2008, 02:57:03 PM »
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You have to have useful and/or entertaining software for it

By developing something real "new", we could have way more "fun" than running 10 years old apps... Look at MacOSX: who's running OS9 apps today (and I believe there are a lot more than 78 000 apps for pre-OSX...)

OSX added a lot more...

Yes, it will take time. But the sooner we start, the sooner we'll have fun again... And the sooner we'll get rid of this old, old, old API, which was designed for old hardware, without portability in mind,...